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I am using kinetik batteries and 200 amp power. I have 2 fosgate 1 farads and one 40 farad fosgate carbon capacitor. Should I take out the either of the capacitors and just use the HC2400's?
A pros help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
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Capacitors Or No Capacitors? Are capacitors really neccesary?
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 06:23 AM
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 06:34 AM
no mention of amps or anything.
caps are a waste either way imo
caps are a waste either way imo
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 06:34 AM
If you already have them, use it. Don't see how it would hurt you. Storing an electrical charge is storing an electrical, no matter what form of storage it is. The more storage/supply you have the better.
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 06:41 AM
Accordman, on May 30 2008, 06:34 AM, said:
no mention of amps or anything.
caps are a waste either way imo
caps are a waste either way imo
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 07:01 AM
i'd at least ditch the two 1 farad caps. how many runs of 1/0 do you have?
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 07:16 AM
Smaller systems see a benefit with a cap if the amp uses a regulated power supply. Most newer big amps are using unregulated power supplies so it's a waste. If you have a secondary battery most of the time you won't see any difference adding a cap.
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 09:55 AM
dmanson, on May 30 2008, 07:01 AM, said:
i'd at least ditch the two 1 farad caps. how many runs of 1/0 do you have?
0 gauges every where, 2 hc2400's, 1 hc1400 and 1 stinger spv70.
I used the spv70 because of space limitations. In addition kinetik said I could definetly use it with there batteries.
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 10:27 AM
CAPS
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 11:19 AM
Team Bassick - Kimo, on May 30 2008, 10:27 AM, said:
CAPS
FTMFL
FTMFL
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Caps are junk power cells or extra batts IMO I gained 3 db's by removing my cap and my head lights stoprd dimming lol isn't that what a cap is for??? Don't work with a lot of power
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 11:27 AM
CAP'S = for sad people
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i thought you only have to hook up 1 coil. cause right now i just have 1 side hooked up.
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u think your tougue tickles now, u shoudl download some decaf or bigpimpin slaps, your tongue will be bouncin lol
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caps or no caps is like asking herpes or no herpes.
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Posted 30 May 2008 - 11:54 AM
deafyT, on May 30 2008, 11:40 AM, said:
caps or no caps is like asking herpes or no herpes.
Herpes with a side of Mono please.
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caps or no caps is like asking herpes or no herpes.
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Posted 14 July 2008 - 10:39 PM
I think I know why alot of guys bash on caps, but mostly for their situations they are right, but they forget about the average joe's system because they are used to building the 2,000 watts and up systems.
Not sure what the rules are, but I would assume that a person with an 800 watt output amp that wouldn't need a second battery would definitely get a better overall use from a cap. My system at the moment is only drawing about 400 watts and before I added the cap I did see alot of noticeable negative side effects whenever heavy bass draw was introduced to the electrical system. My headlights would dim (not terribly, but noticeable) and my volt meter would jump around (not to be confused with dropping down and staying) I think that's where you could draw the line there as if a cap would qualify in the situation. If you're volt meter drops WAY down and stays or takes a while to get back up after a bass note, then I think it's well said that a second battery/alt upgrade would benefit you. However like in my situation where the voltage just jumps down for a sec, a cap will help. After adding mine I have NO MORE headlight dim, but realize that before it wasn't DRASTIC dim. When it comes down to a 40 farad cap (had no idea they even made that) I think that's just a hype kind of buy. If you think that you will gain benefit from 40 farads, then you obviously NEED that extra alternator/batteries, a cap will not be your knight in shining armor.
Just my 2 cents on when caps should be used.
I just think alot of guys forget about the little guy systems.
However if you do see someone asking what sized cap they should use and they are bumping a 10,000 watt system then yes, do tell them they are looking for the wrong fix.
Not sure what the rules are, but I would assume that a person with an 800 watt output amp that wouldn't need a second battery would definitely get a better overall use from a cap. My system at the moment is only drawing about 400 watts and before I added the cap I did see alot of noticeable negative side effects whenever heavy bass draw was introduced to the electrical system. My headlights would dim (not terribly, but noticeable) and my volt meter would jump around (not to be confused with dropping down and staying) I think that's where you could draw the line there as if a cap would qualify in the situation. If you're volt meter drops WAY down and stays or takes a while to get back up after a bass note, then I think it's well said that a second battery/alt upgrade would benefit you. However like in my situation where the voltage just jumps down for a sec, a cap will help. After adding mine I have NO MORE headlight dim, but realize that before it wasn't DRASTIC dim. When it comes down to a 40 farad cap (had no idea they even made that) I think that's just a hype kind of buy. If you think that you will gain benefit from 40 farads, then you obviously NEED that extra alternator/batteries, a cap will not be your knight in shining armor.
Just my 2 cents on when caps should be used.
I just think alot of guys forget about the little guy systems.
However if you do see someone asking what sized cap they should use and they are bumping a 10,000 watt system then yes, do tell them they are looking for the wrong fix.
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