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[OrionStang]

There has been a change in U.S. military burial protocol!
This is a letter that my good friend's husband wrote today after his uncle's
funeral yesterday. If Obama does not want his name associated with our
military, he does not deserve to be "The President of the United States". -

Alice Frankovitch
REMEMBER THIS on NOVEMBER 6, 2012



Dear Sean,


Today I was incensed at the conclusion of a traditional Serbian-Orthodox
funeral for my beloved 85-year-old uncle, Daniel Martich, who proudly served
in the US Army during the Korean conflict. During the committal service at a
Pittsburgh cemetery the local military detachment performed their ritual,
then folded and presented the American Flag to my aunt.


As I'm sure you have witnessed during military funerals, a soldier bends to
one knee and recites a scripted message to a surviving relative that begins
'On behalf of the President of the United States and a grateful nation, I
wish to present you with this flag in appreciation for your husband's
service ...'

However, today the dialogue was 'On behalf of the Secretary of Defense and a
grateful nation...'


After the service, I approached the soldier who presented the flag to my
aunt to inquire about the change in language. His response was: "The White
House notified all military funeral service detachments to immediately
remove 'the President' and insert 'the Secretary of Defense'.


I couldn't believe what I heard! The soldier just smiled and said, "You can
draw your own conclusion, Sir, but that was the order". He, too, was ashamed
of what he was required to say.


Obama has taken off the gloves. My only response to this endless cesspool of
anti-American rhetoric dripping from his mouth is to borrow a phrase "with
one minor change" uttered by another temporary Washington resident living in
government housing (his wife!): "Today for the first time in my adult life,
I am ashamed of the current U.S. President!"


I did not serve in the military but my love of country parallels that of
people like my late uncle who bled red, white and blue. As a second
generation Serbian-American who's heritage produced many patriotic military
men and women who fought for freedom both in the United States as well as in
the former Yugoslavia (most recently in Kosovo against the slaughter of
Serbs by Muslim extremists), I implore you to make the American people aware
of this little-known or, at least, publicly acknowledged fact.


May God Bless you and your family during these difficult times. Your voice
of reason is a welcome change from the insanity plastered across the country
by the liberal media. Keep up the great work and thank you for your service
to our country.


Sincerely,
John G. Martich
Weirton, WV
(304) 374-3518
(304) 723-5414
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO FRIENDS
AND REMEMBER 2012
IS TIME FOR A NEW PRESIDENT
AND COMMANDER IN CHIEF

[mrd6]

makes me sick

[OrionStang]

Lots of views, no responses. If this angers you as much as it does myself, say something. Copy and paste this to anyone you know. This fucking guy should not be our President. He doesn't know what it really means. He is just happy to be the first black president, no matter how much he fucks shit up.

[sayhuh?]

http://www.factcheck...neral-protocol/

Why does anyone ever believe this stuff?

Oh and a surprise, the person Alice has contributed towards Republicans.
http://www.campaignm...ch.asp?cycle=12

Keep in mind, I dislike both side fairly equally and think all Politicians are beyond crooked.


THe actual wording:
"Sir/Ma'm, this flag is presented on behalf of a grateful nation as an expression of appreciation for the honorable and faithful service rendered by your loved one."

Edited by sayhuh?, 19 February 2012 - 01:35 AM.

[OrionStang]

http://www.factcheck...neral-protocol/

Why does anyone ever believe this stuff?

Oh and a surprise, the person Alice has contributed towards Republicans.
http://www.campaignm...ch.asp?cycle=12

Keep in mind, I dislike both side fairly equally and think all Politicians are beyond crooked.

Are you really that narrow minded? Of course they will try to say the change was never ordered. He was only voted into office for one reason.

I do agree though, both sides are fulll of shit. America needs to stand up and speak what we really need and want.

[ryderonthestorm]

http://www.factcheck...neral-protocol/

Why does anyone ever believe this stuff?

Oh and a surprise, the person Alice has contributed towards Republicans.
http://www.campaignm...ch.asp?cycle=12

Keep in mind, I dislike both side fairly equally and think all Politicians are beyond crooked.


THe actual wording:
"Sir/Ma'm, this flag is presented on behalf of a grateful nation as an expression of appreciation for the honorable and faithful service rendered by your loved one."

Exactly, cant believe any of the shit you hear.

[sayhuh?]

http://www.factcheck...neral-protocol/ Why does anyone ever believe this stuff? Oh and a surprise, the person Alice has contributed towards Republicans. http://www.campaignm...ch.asp?cycle=12 Keep in mind, I dislike both side fairly equally and think all Politicians are beyond crooked.

Are you really that narrow minded? Of course they will try to say the change was never ordered. He was only voted into office for one reason. I do agree though, both sides are fulll of shit. America needs to stand up and speak what we really need and want.

You're going to ask if I am narrow minded followed by agreeing with my both sides suck? It has nothing to do with being narrow minded, but everything to do with how you read an email on the oh so truthful internets who supposedly heard this officer says these words, followed by a smile saying draw your own conclusion. Being prior service, I would never see or expect a military officer smiling at a funeral. The actual saying makes no actual mention of saying the President. (see my edit)

I'm saying stop believing a second hand email, it's as bad as believing any politician out there when they say they are speaking the truth. Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see

[Real96SS]

I wouldn't believe everything I read and how can you judge someone off of one letter someone supposedly wrote on something that happened in their life.Every president has done things that everyone in this nation hates.I use to be just like you about presidents until I stopped listening to what people were saying and started doing my own research.I'm military and I hardly doubt just because they changed the wording during a ceremony that its going to change the way people view the president.Most of the changes that happen aren't even directed by the President anyways.So before you go bashing the guy over something that was started and is still going as a chain letter research the people that you are getting this info from and please stop with the spreading of rumors because that's all they are.Break the chain!!!

[KillaCam]

Regardless of the letter being real or not I do not want Obama in office any longer.

[bre2ts]

obama is a waste of space, a liar and a socialist

[bre2ts]

whether this letter is true or not i stand by my first post

[sayhuh?]

Regardless of the letter being real or not I do not want Obama in office any longer.

I agree with you, but looking at the choices, it's a shitty outcome either way. Only one I would like to see is R. Paul and that won't happen.


Brett...you realize Socialists even say he isn't. LoL. Social Security is a form of Socialism, when you retire, will you accept it?

Edited by sayhuh?, 19 February 2012 - 01:53 AM.

[Real96SS]

I'm sure your not the only one that doesn't want him in office and we all know why.

[bre2ts]

Regardless of the letter being real or not I do not want Obama in office any longer.

I agree with you, but looking at the choices, it's a shitty outcome either way. Only one I would like to see is R. Paul and that won't happen.


Brett...you realize Socialists even say he isn't. LoL. Social Security is a form of Socialism, when you retire, will you accept it?

welfare is socialism, obamacare is socialism and no i wont need to take social security cause i use my TSP and will have a retirement pension i do not need to rely on others for my well being

[OrionStang]

obama is a waste of space, a liar and a socialist

whether this letter is true or not i stand by my first post

And I agree with you, 110%.

[OrionStang]

I'm sure your not the only one that doesn't want him in office and we all know why.

And you're probably one of those who voted for him for one reason, and we all know what THAT is.

[sayhuh?]

Regardless of the letter being real or not I do not want Obama in office any longer.

I agree with you, but looking at the choices, it's a shitty outcome either way. Only one I would like to see is R. Paul and that won't happen. Brett...you realize Socialists even say he isn't. LoL. Social Security is a form of Socialism, when you retire, will you accept it?

welfare is socialism, obamacare is socialism and no i wont need to take social security cause i use my TSP and will have a retirement pension i do not need to rely on others for my well being

I get the TSP as well, but are you saying you will return your check when you get one? Granted, the fact we will never see one is probably more accurate. Also, I agree with the 'ObamaCare' is socialized, but my point being, is many Presidents have done the same thing. Medicine, welfare, SS, and even though they deserve it, the military's Tricare is a form of Socialism.

It's all a never ending argument, which is why they all suck. Just remember, the Pres doesn't have as much power as most think. Congress is where we should be worried.

[bre2ts]

we need stability in our government not this flip floppy bull shit obama does.

[sayhuh?]

we need stability in our government not this flip floppy bull shit obama does.

This I agree with, but it isn't just him and that is the problem. Congress is horrible. Special interest have overcome the do whats right/ needed.

Term limit Congres is the best start to fixing our problems.

[OrionStang]

we need stability in our government not this flip floppy bull shit obama does.

This I agree with, but it isn't just him and that is the problem. Congress is horrible. Special interest have overcome the do whats right/ needed.

Term limit Congres is the best start to fixing our problems.

Fo Sho! You're right.

But, he is the only one that would request his name out of the flag presentation to the deceased loved ones. That shit about each branch does it different is BS.