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A couple local guys say they can tune there amps my ear 100% distortion free. They think a dd-1 or o scope is a waste of money. I want to know if it is posible for the ear to pick up every bit of distortion. Here is link to the convo. The convo is the comments on the black sub box with 50+ comments.
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lol the human ear is not designed to detect every bit of distortion from speakers in a car......the dd-1 and an oscope are.....either you can get the dd-1 and set your gains as accurate as possible or listen to the magical guys on facebook who have o-scopes built into their brains..

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ill bet you my last dollar that they are no where near as accurate as either an oscope or a dd-1.
let them talk just dont let them touch your shit. audio companies love consumers like them. it keeps them in business.
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No it is not possible for the ear to pick up all distortion considering it isn't always audible to a humans hearing so that comment is asinine.

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i had same thing happen to me but when i got my dd-1 sounded alot better i was distorting at half volume before i tuned it with dd-1

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You can get pretty close with under 1500w amps but as you get into more powerful amps there is no way to discern distortion and clipping with the ear.

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The regular human ear cannot detect distortion below 3% for bass(maybe 1% if you're an audiophile), and plus there's environmental distortion from the car too like coins shaking, things laying around making nose, seats rattle-ling, all sorts of things, so it makes it harder to tell.

So a DD1 is a good investment to make sure you have no distortion what so ever, and plus it's cheaper than an O scope.

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Thanx for the input. I knew them guys were full of it.
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I used to think I could tune by ear, then again I also thought "gain" was a secondary volume knob. I've come a long way since I was 13-14 yrs old, I'm sure those guys will come around eventually....maybe.

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Well these idiots are saying its a waste of money and that Steve Meade is a joke because he isn't loud he just plays low and shakes shit. So i don't think they will ever come around and respect Steve and realize they are wrong.
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I wouldnt even be apart of that group, once they said they are better than a oscilloscope, time to go...



btw, not alot of people can do 56-58s under the windowline in the cargo area and still seat 5....

power or not, its not something thats super easy to do, so if they want to bash, tell them to put up their TL numbers or STFU

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where theres a will theres a wall.......

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I can tune amps without clipping. It's easy. Just turn that shit to 0 and you're done. No DD-1 required. Thing's a waste of money anyway. :lol:

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there is some VERY hard headed people out there. Anyone who says a DD-1 isnt necessary is also saying an O-scope isnt necessary. Anyone who says an O-scope IN THE MINIMUM isnt necessary, is a noob. Forget the DD-1 for a minute, any reputable installer will at LEAST use an O-scope. Those guys in that thread are clowns. Hard headed clowns.

edit: I just realized that was quote worthy. Feel free to use. LOL (is it ok to quote myself in my sig?) :D

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Thanx to all of you for checking out my topic especially Steve Meade. I told them to use either a o scope or dd-1 but they are stuborn.
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I tried tuning amp by ear or with dmm, but it was much different from O-scope.

Is it possible to add more options to DD-1? :) like build in dmm, clamp meter, ect.

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the DD-1 doesnt have any add on options, sorry. It does what it does and it does it well. I wish my car could make me breakfast but it doesnt. It sure does drive nice though.

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Hahaha ZAch dude so dumb. I got in on that convo

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:rofl: I just read all the comments and it gave me one hell of a laugh I think HaterGonnaHate says it best...Haters Gonna Hate plain and simple.

ANY and I repeat any reputable Car Audio shop owns an O-Scope no way in hell you can tune any system without it. As an installer there are shortcuts we have all followed when tuning by ear but at the end of the day I have seen a DD-1 work first hand on small and large systems not to mention people who thought they were tuned accurately and were surprised when the DD-1 made them louder and cleaner. I don't see how any of those shops he mentioned if reputable said an O-Scope is unnecessary its total bs. Plus the numbers they claimed to have don't mean nothing if they have no proof. I wanna see those numbers on the dash and show me some of these big systems you guys own.

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