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eh, just leave the group, problem solved... let dumb people be dumb, eventually they will die and problem solved
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eh, just leave the group, problem solved... let dumb people be dumb, eventually they will die and problem solved


I know but i feel the need to TRY and talk some sense into them , maybe its just me . meh

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you will learn, stupidity cant get rid of by 99% of the world... its like kicking a dead horse and expecting a unicorn to appear and UFOs to beam you up to the moon, it will just never happen.
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you will learn, stupidity cant get rid of by 99% of the world... its like kicking a dead horse and expecting a unicorn to appear and UFOs to beam you up to the moon, it will just never happen.


Im using that in my SIQ !! i also quoted steve :rofl:

Edited by MIKE-2U, 21 February 2012 - 07:45 PM.

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yo mike im with u i wanna get since into them and like they said put a system on a meter before and after dd-1 but notice when i offer they talk about some other bs
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just a question about the dd-1, since it checks ur system without anything hooked to it ( or most do it this way), if your electrical aint up to par where the dd-1 set it to, could voltage drop cause distortion?

or does a dd-1 have some sort of ohm load on it to help with this? cause i know with some amps thd goes up the lower ohm load u go to if electrical aint to par

and when is tony gunna release the amp dyno? would be cool to see what an amp does when its set to par with the dd-1 to see how much power u can get cleanly vs the ear o meter shit
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I guess ric at pulse car audio doesnt know what hes doing, i mean he only built trippis hummer, and has a ton of other loud cars all over 155s under his name....
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just a question about the dd-1, since it checks ur system without anything hooked to it ( or most do it this way), if your electrical aint up to par where the dd-1 set it to, could voltage drop cause distortion?

or does a dd-1 have some sort of ohm load on it to help with this? cause i know with some amps thd goes up the lower ohm load u go to if electrical aint to par

and when is tony gunna release the amp dyno? would be cool to see what an amp does when its set to par with the dd-1 to see how much power u can get cleanly vs the ear o meter shit



Dont quote me but i think low voltage causes clipping and/or distortion , let someone else answer that

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just a question about the dd-1, since it checks ur system without anything hooked to it ( or most do it this way), if your electrical aint up to par where the dd-1 set it to, could voltage drop cause distortion?

or does a dd-1 have some sort of ohm load on it to help with this? cause i know with some amps thd goes up the lower ohm load u go to if electrical aint to par

and when is tony gunna release the amp dyno? would be cool to see what an amp does when its set to par with the dd-1 to see how much power u can get cleanly vs the ear o meter shit



Dont quote me but i think low voltage causes clipping and/or distortion , let someone else answer that

figured as much, still gives u something to by, i dont like the whole "setting by ear" or by w/e number u get on a dmm, i set mine by ear but i dont try to go full tilt tho, to many damn settings on my headunit, i'll try n get a dd-1 tho =)
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there is some VERY hard headed people out there. Anyone who says a DD-1 isnt necessary is also saying an O-scope isnt necessary. Anyone who says an O-scope IN THE MINIMUM isnt necessary, is a noob. Forget the DD-1 for a minute, any reputable installer will at LEAST use an O-scope. Those guys in that thread are clowns. Hard headed clowns.

edit: I just realized that was quote worthy. Feel free to use. LOL (is it ok to quote myself in my sig?) :D

i hear that! both the shops that are here in my area tune by ear. i have corrected more then one system they have install. i run a small shop and tune by o-scope. an people that do their own installs have come to me because they know its not right until its right! so im not big shop but im better then the rest. LOL as for your quote steve......you can't. that is like giving yourself a nickname. someone else has to do it. then you just accept it and reuse.


I tried tuning amp by ear or with dmm, but it was much different from O-scope.

Is it possible to add more options to DD-1? :) like build in dmm, clamp meter, ect.

the dd-1 has an add on. its called the cc-1.


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Edited by neuspeedescort, 21 February 2012 - 08:11 PM.

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At least ur honest that u set by ear and still don't run full tilt cuz u know its still clipping right on man
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I set by ear(though I do it carefully) cause I have nothing else to use, not even a digital multimeter, only an analog multimeter, I'd love to invest for a DD-1, so I can tune my stuff right, and then do other people's cars for like $20 each tehe :D

Edited by Omega5002, 21 February 2012 - 08:19 PM.

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right on man i do it for free for my friends havent thought about trying to make money from it
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Well, for my friends, I would do it for free cause they're my friends, though I only have a few friends with bass. $20 is for people who'd hit me up on craigslist.

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Yea im gonna try that could make me some $$
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yes voltage drop causes the amp to output less power, so yes it will clip sooner. and CC1 isnt an addon to the DD1. its a completely different product with completely different uses.

edit: plus, how is it an addon if they dont hook up together? fail

Edited by Kranny, 21 February 2012 - 08:29 PM.

Lol overpriced amp huh. Shows how much you know. I know folks. Dont be mad you run a piece of shit amp. You and all the other dont know bbetters can say man itd awesome its awesome and I got it for 125 bucks. Ive spent more on glue.

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yes voltage drop causes the amp to output less power, so yes it will clip sooner. and CC1 isnt an addon to the DD1. its a completely different product with completely different uses.

edit: plus, how is it an addon if they dont hook up together? fail


i think he meant addition i think he knows not an add on feature

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A couple local guys say they can tune there amps my ear 100% distortion free. They think a dd-1 or o scope is a waste of money. I want to know if it is posible for the ear to pick up every bit of distortion. Here is link to the convo. The convo is the comments on the black sub box with 50+ comments.


Setting by ear never works. I remember not being satisfied with my system for a while because I set it by ear. I was constantly stopping, pulling over and trying to re tune it. It just never worked by ear. After I learned how to calculate how much voltage I should be using and started using my multimeter I felt a lot better, my system sounded better and my system was definitely louder. I just got my dd-1 and cc-1 in the mail today and can't wait to give them a try and see what improvements I notice. Too bad I don't have a legit meter so I can have a before and after measurements.

Edited by tyma1026, 21 February 2012 - 08:33 PM.


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A couple local guys say they can tune there amps my ear 100% distortion free. They think a dd-1 or o scope is a waste of money. I want to know if it is posible for the ear to pick up every bit of distortion. Here is link to the convo. The convo is the comments on the black sub box with 50+ comments.


Setting by ear never works. I remember not being satisfied with my system for a while because I set it by ear. I was constantly stopping, pulling over and trying to re tune it. It just never worked by ear. After I learned how to calculate how much voltage I should be using and started using my multimeter I felt a lot better, my system sounded better and my system was definitely louder. I just got my dd-1 and cc-1 in the mail today and can't wait to give them a try and see what improvements I notice. Too bad I don't have a legit meter so I can have a before and after measurements.


Yeah, I know that feeling of having to re-tune the amp over and over again, it gets really annoying. I'm gonna see if my teacher will let me borrow his digital multimeter, and see if that'll make a difference for me.

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2 Sundown SAZ-1500's v3 at .5 ohms each

2 Eminence Alpha6C 6.5's,2 AA Havoc neo tweeters up front, AQ 120.4 at 4 ohm per channel, ran active

220 amp Singer alternator, 2 Sprinter 285's, 1 Deka G34, 2 runs of 1/0 cca shca wire, 2 1/0 ofc ground wires to the frame

Best score: 149.3 at 40hz (3k, 2 Custom HDC3 15's) Usaci style(door open, in the kick)

 

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yes voltage drop causes the amp to output less power, so yes it will clip sooner. and CC1 isnt an addon to the DD1. its a completely different product with completely different uses.

edit: plus, how is it an addon if they dont hook up together? fail


i'm not an idiot. an if you took me seriously i think you missed the fact i was clowning around with what steve said also.


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