Which glue for recone? question on last post

[im45pl]

Hi I had a bit of an accident and broke the basket on my lvl6 and tore the surround is it possible to buy a basket and AR surround? or am i stuck buying a recone?

Edited April 11, 2014 by im45pl

[CJ18]

If it is a paper cone, you need a new basket and recone.

Edited December 18, 2013 by CJ18

[im45pl]

Cheers for the quick reply, its a carbon fibre cone

[will77530]

youll still need a recone

[cloud77]

might as well just recone. brand new

[audiofanaticz]

Since no one is going into why you need a recone, Ill explain that for you.

Your basket is bolted to the motor, often times to get these bolts out you have to remove the current softparts off the basket. Which means cone, surround, dustcap, spiders, voice coil.

Granted some baskets allow you to remove them from the motor without undoing all that, BUT you still need to remove the parts from the old basket to put them on the new basket.

The high strength CA Glue that is used to bond the spiders to the baskets is not going to allow you to remove the spiders without damaging them, no matter how hard you try the parts will not be reusable.

If you damage the spiders anyway you got to replace them, in order to replace the spiders alone you would have to remove the coil from the cone just so you can can access to the voice coil former to slide the spiders on from the top side of the coil. But before you do that you would have to remove all that old glue off the voice coil, and its not worth all that effort and time to clean that coil off and hope you dont damage its windings, or leadout wires, or deform it.

Your carbon cone should be reusable as well as the dustcap if its carbon fiber, and even polypropylene caps can be reused at that point but the time to clean them off vs a few bucks for a new one just not worth it, now thats completly different when your talking about more expensive composite and carbon fiber cones and dust caps.

After your all said and done a new recone reusing your cf cone is not going to be much more expensive then trying to rig the speaker back together with a new basket and surround, and after its all said and done its like a brand new woofer

[will77530]

thanks brian, i just came back to do that

[im45pl]

Since no one is going into why you need a recone, Ill explain that for you.

Your basket is bolted to the motor, often times to get these bolts out you have to remove the current softparts off the basket. Which means cone, surround, dustcap, spiders, voice coil.

Granted some baskets allow you to remove them from the motor without undoing all that, BUT you still need to remove the parts from the old basket to put them on the new basket.

The high strength CA Glue that is used to bond the spiders to the baskets is not going to allow you to remove the spiders without damaging them, no matter how hard you try the parts will not be reusable.

If you damage the spiders anyway you got to replace them, in order to replace the spiders alone you would have to remove the coil from the cone just so you can can access to the voice coil former to slide the spiders on from the top side of the coil. But before you do that you would have to remove all that old glue off the voice coil, and its not worth all that effort and time to clean that coil off and hope you dont damage its windings, or leadout wires, or deform it.

Your carbon cone should be reusable as well as the dustcap if its carbon fiber, and even polypropylene caps can be reused at that point but the time to clean them off vs a few bucks for a new one just not worth it, now thats completly different when your talking about more expensive composite and carbon fiber cones and dust caps.

After your all said and done a new recone reusing your cf cone is not going to be much more expensive then trying to rig the speaker back together with a new basket and surround, and after its all said and done its like a brand new woofer

thanks mate, all makes sense, I wasn't sure if there was a way to get the spiders unglued without them being ruined.. no probs ill buy a re-cone and new basket and get it assembled for me...

[im45pl]

ok so now I have the recone, is there any special type of ca glue to use? brands or chemicals etc

I watched Showtime SPL video on youtube and he used a silicone style adhesive to join the motor to the basket and for the dustcap, the product he used isn't available in Australia, so I was hoping to use sikaflex which is a polyurethane sealant/adhesive do you think that would be suitable?

cheers for any info and advice

[audiofanaticz]

You should have ordered glue with your recone, most companies will sell you small amounts which is enough to do the recone for about 20ish dollars.

You need a high tensile strength shock resistant thick viscosity CA Glue.