Jivko Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Hello,I know loudness clipping, but without him, bass is weak, car is saloon if relevant, what would you recommend to me, the system is so configured for now (Sorry for bad english)Cd Player SettingEQ: FlatLoudness: HIsub w ctrl: 80hz : 0: -12HPF: 80hz : -12S. Rtrv: OffMono Amp SettingGain: 1/2 Normal(2V Standard 500 mV)LPF: Cd Player Filter 80 hzBass Boost remote control: MIN(Off) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilthx Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Loudness on most head units is usually effective at low to mid volumes. At high volumes many head units automatically shut loudness off. What equipment are you using? What Head Unit? Are you using RCA cables? What Speakers? What Subwoofer(s)? What Amplifier(s)? What Size Power and Ground Wires? With no music playing, find out how high your volume goes on your head unit. i.e. Max volume = 30 or 60 or 100. For ease of helping you lets say yours goes to 60 at max volume. Set all your sound settings to flat on the Head Unit, make sure loudness is OFF, if the head unit has subwoofer controls, set them to 0 and turn everything down on your amplifier that the sub is connected to. Now, get test tones. Find a 40hz test tone recorded at 0db and one recorded at 1,000hz also at 0db. If your volume goes to 60, set it at 50. Now lets start. Put in the 40hz test tone, pause the track, set volume to 50, set track to repeat, get ready to adjust the gain slowly. Push play!! Now adjust the gain until it sounds good to your ear. Stop!! disconnect the RCA's for the sub. Now on to the mids and highs. Put in the 1,000hz test tone, pause the track, set the volume, set to repeat, get ready to adjust the gain... push play. Adjust the gain for the mids and highs untill they are loud and clear. Stop. Lower the volume on the head unit. Re-connect the sub amp. Put in some familiar music. Adjust the EQ settings on the head unit, adjust any additional settings for sound on the amplifiers. You should now be able to turn your head unit volume very loud without distortion and you should now be able to use your sub more effectively. Kenwood Excelon KDC-X998 JBL GTO608C Components JBL GTO628 Coaxials JBL P1224 12" dual 4ohm Subwoofers Alpine MRV-F545 - Alpine MRX M100 Hand Built by Me 5.9cu.ft. slot ported enclosure tuned to 27hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSkippyJ Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Shut loudness off. As a side note, it doesn't tell anyone anything to mention where your gain is set. F150: Stock 2019 Harley Road Glide: Amp: TM400Xad - 4 channel 400 watt Processor: DSR1 Fairing (Front) 6.5s -MMats PA601cx Lid (Rear) 6x9s - TMS69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivko Posted October 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Loudness on most head units is usually effective at low to mid volumes. At high volumes many head units automatically shut loudness off. What equipment are you using? What Head Unit? Are you using RCA cables? What Speakers? What Subwoofer(s)? What Amplifier(s)? What Size Power and Ground Wires? With no music playing, find out how high your volume goes on your head unit. i.e. Max volume = 30 or 60 or 100. For ease of helping you lets say yours goes to 60 at max volume. Set all your sound settings to flat on the Head Unit, make sure loudness is OFF, if the head unit has subwoofer controls, set them to 0 and turn everything down on your amplifier that the sub is connected to. Now, get test tones. Find a 40hz test tone recorded at 0db and one recorded at 1,000hz also at 0db. If your volume goes to 60, set it at 50. Now lets start. Put in the 40hz test tone, pause the track, set volume to 50, set track to repeat, get ready to adjust the gain slowly. Push play!! Now adjust the gain until it sounds good to your ear. Stop!! disconnect the RCA's for the sub. Now on to the mids and highs. Put in the 1,000hz test tone, pause the track, set the volume, set to repeat, get ready to adjust the gain... push play. Adjust the gain for the mids and highs untill they are loud and clear. Stop. Lower the volume on the head unit. Re-connect the sub amp. Put in some familiar music. Adjust the EQ settings on the head unit, adjust any additional settings for sound on the amplifiers. You should now be able to turn your head unit volume very loud without distortion and you should now be able to use your sub more effectively. Cd player: Pioneer deh-3500ui Monoamp: Pioneer d9601 Subwoofer: Pioneer ts-w3004spl Box: Ported Box Capacitor: 2F Power Cable: 25 ft RCA Cable: blue thick Mids and highs no problem, max volume on cd player is 62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivko Posted October 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Shut loudness off. As a side note, it doesn't tell anyone anything to mention where your gain is set. Gain is setting so: http://www.img-share.eu/f/images/291/gainJ8UVlH0.bmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSkippyJ Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 What I mean is 1/2 doesn't mean anything, it doesn't tell us anything. It's not 1/2, because would indicate that the knob turned all the way to the right is full, it's not. For instance, my gain setting is about 1/3 of the way turned, but the amp is running full output. the only thing that we can deduct from your gain setting is that your RCA voltage is about 1/2 of what the amp can accept, and even that is largely a guess. F150: Stock 2019 Harley Road Glide: Amp: TM400Xad - 4 channel 400 watt Processor: DSR1 Fairing (Front) 6.5s -MMats PA601cx Lid (Rear) 6x9s - TMS69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilthx Posted October 9, 2016 Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Loudness on most head units is usually effective at low to mid volumes. At high volumes many head units automatically shut loudness off. What equipment are you using? What Head Unit? Are you using RCA cables? What Speakers? What Subwoofer(s)? What Amplifier(s)? What Size Power and Ground Wires? With no music playing, find out how high your volume goes on your head unit. i.e. Max volume = 30 or 60 or 100. For ease of helping you lets say yours goes to 60 at max volume. Set all your sound settings to flat on the Head Unit, make sure loudness is OFF, if the head unit has subwoofer controls, set them to 0 and turn everything down on your amplifier that the sub is connected to. Now, get test tones. Find a 40hz test tone recorded at 0db and one recorded at 1,000hz also at 0db. If your volume goes to 60, set it at 50. Now lets start. Put in the 40hz test tone, pause the track, set volume to 50, set track to repeat, get ready to adjust the gain slowly. Push play!! Now adjust the gain until it sounds good to your ear. Stop!! disconnect the RCA's for the sub. Now on to the mids and highs. Put in the 1,000hz test tone, pause the track, set the volume, set to repeat, get ready to adjust the gain... push play. Adjust the gain for the mids and highs untill they are loud and clear. Stop. Lower the volume on the head unit. Re-connect the sub amp. Put in some familiar music. Adjust the EQ settings on the head unit, adjust any additional settings for sound on the amplifiers. You should now be able to turn your head unit volume very loud without distortion and you should now be able to use your sub more effectively. Cd player: Pioneer deh-3500ui Monoamp: Pioneer d9601 Subwoofer: Pioneer ts-w3004spl Box: Ported Box Capacitor: 2F Power Cable: 25 ft RCA Cable: blue thick Mids and highs no problem, max volume on cd player is 62 Not terrible stereo components at all. Set your gain as i said above with your volume at 52. This will give you some wiggle room when adjusting audio settings after you set the sub amp gain. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE VOICE COILS WIRED CORRECTLY!!! If that is the dual 4 ohm voice coil model then you could have it at 8 ohms or 2 ohms running a single sub.... Run it at 2ohms If you want it to be louder... check those coils first! Kenwood Excelon KDC-X998 JBL GTO608C Components JBL GTO628 Coaxials JBL P1224 12" dual 4ohm Subwoofers Alpine MRV-F545 - Alpine MRX M100 Hand Built by Me 5.9cu.ft. slot ported enclosure tuned to 27hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivko Posted October 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 Not terrible stereo components at all. Set your gain as i said above with your volume at 52. This will give you some wiggle room when adjusting audio settings after you set the sub amp gain. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE VOICE COILS WIRED CORRECTLY!!! If that is the dual 4 ohm voice coil model then you could have it at 8 ohms or 2 ohms running a single sub.... Run it at 2ohms If you want it to be louder... check those coils first! It connected the picture 2 ohms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jivko Posted October 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2016 What I mean is 1/2 doesn't mean anything, it doesn't tell us anything. It's not 1/2, because would indicate that the knob turned all the way to the right is full, it's not. For instance, my gain setting is about 1/3 of the way turned, but the amp is running full output. the only thing that we can deduct from your gain setting is that your RCA voltage is about 1/2 of what the amp can accept, and even that is largely a guess. You mean that your gain is max and cd player increases, decreases according to taste, because turn off loudness and bass low not hear even volume to 30-40, because I've heard gain setting more than 1/2 leads to clipping ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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