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2 Rf T10001bd Wont Fully Turn On is it amps or bad relay or remote wire

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Post icon  Posted 12 August 2008 - 10:52 AM

my 2 amps wont fully turn on in my system. my kenwood mids and high amp cuts on but only one t1k will try to power up if i unhook 1 the other still wont fully power up

the both make the sound that theyre powering up but wont fully click on

what could be the cause of this
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:00 AM

View PostARMYSGT_D, on Aug 12 2008, 01:52 PM, said:

my 2 amps wont fully turn on in my system. my kenwood mids and high amp cuts on but only one t1k will try to power up if i unhook 1 the other still wont fully power up

the both make the sound that theyre powering up but wont fully click on

what could be the cause of this



what size power wire are you running? hopefully at least 1/0 with a 300 amp fuse inline.
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:07 AM

yeah i got the power 1/0,... batteries ....big 3

remote wire str8 from the deck wont turn on the fosgates with relay its still not strong enough
current set-up
kenwood ddx 712
clarion eq
focal 165 k2p front
focal 165v2 rear
2 re audio sexxx 12
us amps md3d
us amps md42
1 optima yellow top (rear)
1 xs power 5100r (front)
big 3 and 1 run 1/0 stinger wire

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:08 AM

have you checked your grounds?
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:11 AM

Have u unplugged the speakers and tried to power it up?
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:16 AM

View Postsactownstang, on Aug 12 2008, 12:11 PM, said:

Have u unplugged the speakers and tried to power it up?


grounds were good i unplugged spkrz same thing
current set-up
kenwood ddx 712
clarion eq
focal 165 k2p front
focal 165v2 rear
2 re audio sexxx 12
us amps md3d
us amps md42
1 optima yellow top (rear)
1 xs power 5100r (front)
big 3 and 1 run 1/0 stinger wire

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:17 AM

Unhook everything but the power & ground and jumper the power to the remote.
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:17 AM

View PostARMYSGT_D, on Aug 12 2008, 01:07 PM, said:

yeah i got the power 1/0,... batteries ....big 3

remote wire str8 from the deck wont turn on the fosgates with relay its still not strong enough


Sounds like your remote wire out of your deck is bad. I have the same amps, no relays, and mine works fine. Remote wire straight from my hu.

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:23 AM

Could the rca be gounding out?
yes should be checked right at amp with DMM rem wire and 12V
My amps spark 1 time when I connect them. Anymore take it out bench test it.

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:27 AM

thats what im thinking because the sub pre-outs went bad even if the remote wire from the hu is bad wouldnt the relay boost it
current set-up
kenwood ddx 712
clarion eq
focal 165 k2p front
focal 165v2 rear
2 re audio sexxx 12
us amps md3d
us amps md42
1 optima yellow top (rear)
1 xs power 5100r (front)
big 3 and 1 run 1/0 stinger wire

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:35 AM

View PostARMYSGT_D, on Aug 12 2008, 02:27 PM, said:

thats what im thinking because the sub pre-outs went bad even if the remote wire from the hu is bad wouldnt the relay boost it



you do have a remote wire running from the H/U to relay and then from the relay your remote wires running to your amp(s) right? well i'm with jblack on this one. gots to be your remote signal going out on your h/u. good luck man. i know it sucks to have such nice equipment can't really play it.
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:44 AM

View PostARMYSGT_D, on Aug 12 2008, 01:27 PM, said:

thats what im thinking because the sub pre-outs went bad even if the remote wire from the hu is bad wouldnt the relay boost it


My brother had this problem with his 2 RF X7s. He had 2 relays and still had this problem. 1 amp keep shutting off when he started pumping his system due to voltage drop in his remote wire. I asked this question on the RF forum and Sactownstang or Snafu (can't remeber which one) suggested the test that Derrick just mentioned. That's how we found out he had a bad remote wire in his hu.

But it could also be the RCAs, as sactown mentioned.

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:53 AM

from my h/u to relay it worked fine for a week then my sub outputs went bad and then it wouldnt power up all the amps
current set-up
kenwood ddx 712
clarion eq
focal 165 k2p front
focal 165v2 rear
2 re audio sexxx 12
us amps md3d
us amps md42
1 optima yellow top (rear)
1 xs power 5100r (front)
big 3 and 1 run 1/0 stinger wire

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:57 AM

try running a new remote wire to something different....like fuse box or cigarrete lighter...
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 12:01 PM

View PostARMYSGT_D, on Aug 12 2008, 01:53 PM, said:

from my h/u to relay it worked fine for a week then my sub outputs went bad and then it wouldnt power up all the amps


Think it's time for a new H/U brother!!! :sorry:

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 12:06 PM

A DMM is 3.99 at harbor freight!
Sounds like u need one!
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Post icon  Posted 12 August 2008 - 12:22 PM

im picking up 1 tommorow digital but ive never used 1 so what am i to check and look for or what should the stuff i check read
current set-up
kenwood ddx 712
clarion eq
focal 165 k2p front
focal 165v2 rear
2 re audio sexxx 12
us amps md3d
us amps md42
1 optima yellow top (rear)
1 xs power 5100r (front)
big 3 and 1 run 1/0 stinger wire

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Post icon  Posted 12 August 2008 - 12:33 PM

what should these items read:
remote wire
relay
rca
speaker outs


how do you know which isnt reading right
current set-up
kenwood ddx 712
clarion eq
focal 165 k2p front
focal 165v2 rear
2 re audio sexxx 12
us amps md3d
us amps md42
1 optima yellow top (rear)
1 xs power 5100r (front)
big 3 and 1 run 1/0 stinger wire

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 12:38 PM

?
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focal 165 k2p front
focal 165v2 rear
2 re audio sexxx 12
us amps md3d
us amps md42
1 optima yellow top (rear)
1 xs power 5100r (front)
big 3 and 1 run 1/0 stinger wire

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Posted 12 August 2008 - 12:40 PM

Well first unplug the rca and speaker wire.
Then test the +12 and ground if it's all good 12.2-13 are fine.
Then using the same ground turn on the deck the remote should have 12-12 v.

If all these items are correct and the amp does not power up, the amp needs repair.
If not we can go to the next step.
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