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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:12 PM

sorry if i ask too many questions.i just want to do it right,

alright well,ill be:
replacing my stock alt
replacing stock battery
replacing power/ground wires with thicker ones
i hope to do the big 3 someday
and running only (2) 12'' subs off this amp dual 4 ohms RF punch DVC.
deck is alpine


what i need to know is how much power do i need?
is 1 battery upgrade under the hood good enough or do i need to get an additional battery ran to the trunk of my car?
also what is the thickest power/ground wire that i can get for this amp?

any info would be great.. from power/wires/box for subs..anything...thanks
2001 Black Monte Carlo SS chrome 20''
(1) Alpine i-9881 deck-ipod-
(2) DC lvl 4XL 18''s-Walled-
(1) DAT Hellfire - 2500.1-fused-
(1) D3400 XS Power battery-fused-
(1) phoenix gold 6.5 comp
(1) pioneer 6x9 set-soon to be all 6.5 mids n highs in pods
(1) hifonics zues z440 highs amp-
(1) DC POWER ALT INSTALLED BY ROB FTW,Big3
--- Alarm

Moar to come!!trystar wiring,pods for moar comp sets,new wall rebuild,volt meter.

[ak11667] 6:36 pm: my bf is the queen bitch
[ak11667] 6:36 pm: and i tell him often
[BigPimpin91] 6:36 pm: WTF is going on in here?

[EdgarCervantes] 4:31 pm: im in my room and out of nowere i hear bass im like oh shit sombody has
bass in this city, i look out the window and its my mom bumping Gorilla Zoe
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:19 PM

add a batt to the rear for the RF T1K. will help alot. the + and - require 0 ga. bigger is better. run everthing 0 ga, except for the subs. i run 8 ga. to my subs.
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:23 PM

View PostgotFI?, on Dec 24 2008, 07:19 PM, said:

add a batt to the rear for the RF T1K. will help alot. the + and - require 0 ga. bigger is better. run everthing 0 ga, except for the subs. i run 8 ga. to my subs.


thanks...i dont need any cap ?
2001 Black Monte Carlo SS chrome 20''
(1) Alpine i-9881 deck-ipod-
(2) DC lvl 4XL 18''s-Walled-
(1) DAT Hellfire - 2500.1-fused-
(1) D3400 XS Power battery-fused-
(1) phoenix gold 6.5 comp
(1) pioneer 6x9 set-soon to be all 6.5 mids n highs in pods
(1) hifonics zues z440 highs amp-
(1) DC POWER ALT INSTALLED BY ROB FTW,Big3
--- Alarm

Moar to come!!trystar wiring,pods for moar comp sets,new wall rebuild,volt meter.

[ak11667] 6:36 pm: my bf is the queen bitch
[ak11667] 6:36 pm: and i tell him often
[BigPimpin91] 6:36 pm: WTF is going on in here?

[EdgarCervantes] 4:31 pm: im in my room and out of nowere i hear bass im like oh shit sombody has
bass in this city, i look out the window and its my mom bumping Gorilla Zoe
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:28 PM

View PostMellow18, on Dec 24 2008, 07:23 PM, said:

thanks...i dont need any cap ?

caps are a waste. throws those things away. 1 kinetik 800 batt is stronger then 15 caps combined.
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:29 PM

View PostgotFI?, on Dec 24 2008, 07:28 PM, said:

caps are a waste. throws those things away. 1 kinetik 800 batt is stronger then 15 caps combined.


so 2 HC800 would be good enough if so ill buy 2 from bumassjeff

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2001 Black Monte Carlo SS chrome 20''
(1) Alpine i-9881 deck-ipod-
(2) DC lvl 4XL 18''s-Walled-
(1) DAT Hellfire - 2500.1-fused-
(1) D3400 XS Power battery-fused-
(1) phoenix gold 6.5 comp
(1) pioneer 6x9 set-soon to be all 6.5 mids n highs in pods
(1) hifonics zues z440 highs amp-
(1) DC POWER ALT INSTALLED BY ROB FTW,Big3
--- Alarm

Moar to come!!trystar wiring,pods for moar comp sets,new wall rebuild,volt meter.

[ak11667] 6:36 pm: my bf is the queen bitch
[ak11667] 6:36 pm: and i tell him often
[BigPimpin91] 6:36 pm: WTF is going on in here?

[EdgarCervantes] 4:31 pm: im in my room and out of nowere i hear bass im like oh shit sombody has
bass in this city, i look out the window and its my mom bumping Gorilla Zoe
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:33 PM

View PostMellow18, on Dec 24 2008, 07:29 PM, said:

so 2 HC800 would be good enough if so ill buy 2 from bassmaster

not saying to buy the 800. im saying thats how much better batts are vs. caps.

for the RF T1K, kinetik 1400 would be plenty. your stock front batt is fine. the rear batt does most of the powering to the amp. but i have a kinetik up front. ;)
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:35 PM

View PostMellow18, on Dec 24 2008, 08:12 PM, said:

sorry if i ask too many questions.i just want to do it right,

alright well,ill be:
replacing my stock alt
replacing stock battery
replacing power/ground wires with thicker ones
i hope to do the big 3 someday
and running only (2) 12'' subs off this amp dual 4 ohms RF punch DVC.
deck is alpine


what i need to know is how much power do i need?
is 1 battery upgrade under the hood good enough or do i need to get an additional battery ran to the trunk of my car?
also what is the thickest power/ground wire that i can get for this amp?

any info would be great.. from power/wires/box for subs..anything...thanks

I would not upgrade the alternator because its not nessesary get a hc600 or hc800 kinetik battery, that is more then enough trust me, but if you got the money then why not get the HO Alt. Do the big 3 it would do the most good. 4 gauge is fine but i recommend o gauge.
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:37 PM

View PostgotFI?, on Dec 24 2008, 08:33 PM, said:

not saying to buy the 800. im saying thats how much better batts are vs. caps.

for the RF T1K, kinetik 1400 would be plenty. your stock front batt is fine. the rear batt does most of the powering to the amp. but i have a kinetik up front. ;)

Yups, my buddy is running 2 t1000s and the same subs i had with a stock alt and battery + a hc800 and 2 1.5 caps
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1.5 Diesel Audio Cap<Its just there to impress the females with shiny things ;)
Kinetik HC800
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:40 PM

View PostSick916, on Dec 24 2008, 07:35 PM, said:

I would not upgrade the alternator because its not nessesary get a hc600 or hc800 kinetik battery, that is more then enough trust me, but if you got the money then why not get the HO Alt. Do the big 3 it would do the most good. 4 gauge is fine but i recommend o gauge.


well the thing is i might have messed up my alt by having a system with my stock battery n a lil ass cap..because the other day arround 2am i went to the store and the later that day my battery was dead n i had to get a jump. and my amp for my subs wasnt even connected just the amp to my highs,
i also blew out an amp not knowing i needed more power.
and i dont think bumassjeff still has those batteries available anymore =/
he had 2 hc800 for 150 shipped


so idk if my alt is bad or not how would i check it?
2001 Black Monte Carlo SS chrome 20''
(1) Alpine i-9881 deck-ipod-
(2) DC lvl 4XL 18''s-Walled-
(1) DAT Hellfire - 2500.1-fused-
(1) D3400 XS Power battery-fused-
(1) phoenix gold 6.5 comp
(1) pioneer 6x9 set-soon to be all 6.5 mids n highs in pods
(1) hifonics zues z440 highs amp-
(1) DC POWER ALT INSTALLED BY ROB FTW,Big3
--- Alarm

Moar to come!!trystar wiring,pods for moar comp sets,new wall rebuild,volt meter.

[ak11667] 6:36 pm: my bf is the queen bitch
[ak11667] 6:36 pm: and i tell him often
[BigPimpin91] 6:36 pm: WTF is going on in here?

[EdgarCervantes] 4:31 pm: im in my room and out of nowere i hear bass im like oh shit sombody has
bass in this city, i look out the window and its my mom bumping Gorilla Zoe
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:41 PM

View PostgotFI?, on Dec 24 2008, 07:33 PM, said:

not saying to buy the 800. im saying thats how much better batts are vs. caps.

for the RF T1K, kinetik 1400 would be plenty. your stock front batt is fine. the rear batt does most of the powering to the amp. but i have a kinetik up front. ;)


oh i understood im just wondering on what would be a good battery at a good price for the system im trying to set up...
but the batteries arnt for sale anymore =(
2001 Black Monte Carlo SS chrome 20''
(1) Alpine i-9881 deck-ipod-
(2) DC lvl 4XL 18''s-Walled-
(1) DAT Hellfire - 2500.1-fused-
(1) D3400 XS Power battery-fused-
(1) phoenix gold 6.5 comp
(1) pioneer 6x9 set-soon to be all 6.5 mids n highs in pods
(1) hifonics zues z440 highs amp-
(1) DC POWER ALT INSTALLED BY ROB FTW,Big3
--- Alarm

Moar to come!!trystar wiring,pods for moar comp sets,new wall rebuild,volt meter.

[ak11667] 6:36 pm: my bf is the queen bitch
[ak11667] 6:36 pm: and i tell him often
[BigPimpin91] 6:36 pm: WTF is going on in here?

[EdgarCervantes] 4:31 pm: im in my room and out of nowere i hear bass im like oh shit sombody has
bass in this city, i look out the window and its my mom bumping Gorilla Zoe
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 08:49 PM

View PostMellow18, on Dec 24 2008, 08:40 PM, said:

well the thing is i might have messed up my alt by having a system with my stock battery n a lil ass cap..because the other day arround 2am i went to the store and the later that day my battery was dead n i had to get a jump. and my amp for my subs wasnt even connected just the amp to my highs,
i also blew out an amp not knowing i needed more power.
and i dont think bumassjeff still has those batteries available anymore =/
he had 2 hc800 for 150 shipped


so idk if my alt is bad or not how would i check it?

did you check the bat it might just be a bad cell, i think you might some wiring issues if you messed up your alternator and amp. redo your wiring you might have a short or something among those lines
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Pioneer deh-p980bt
Yellow Top Primary Battery
1.5 Diesel Audio Cap<Its just there to impress the females with shiny things ;)
Kinetik HC800
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 09:04 PM

What's the amp?

EDIT: guess it would help to read the title of the thread huh?

Big 3 and and another batt. if you want, and you should be good to go. I know it isn't the best way to do things, but I know several people running that amp or an equivalent and don't have problems with their alternator. Though, they are all also doing this in trucks with heavier duty alternators, so... :/

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Posted 24 December 2008 - 09:32 PM

well i think i blew out the amp by not having enough power or! by connecting 3 RF 12''s to it at 2.67 ohm loads bridged...i didnt connect it some one else did.
amp was an old PPI 2600.2 400-500 RMS trying to push 3 RF 12''s DVC punch power 1000rms/2000watts i believe and an rf punch hx2 500 RMS 12''

my battery is a duralast gold 75

and idk if it was the wiring but i am going to replace it either way because its not thick enough
2001 Black Monte Carlo SS chrome 20''
(1) Alpine i-9881 deck-ipod-
(2) DC lvl 4XL 18''s-Walled-
(1) DAT Hellfire - 2500.1-fused-
(1) D3400 XS Power battery-fused-
(1) phoenix gold 6.5 comp
(1) pioneer 6x9 set-soon to be all 6.5 mids n highs in pods
(1) hifonics zues z440 highs amp-
(1) DC POWER ALT INSTALLED BY ROB FTW,Big3
--- Alarm

Moar to come!!trystar wiring,pods for moar comp sets,new wall rebuild,volt meter.

[ak11667] 6:36 pm: my bf is the queen bitch
[ak11667] 6:36 pm: and i tell him often
[BigPimpin91] 6:36 pm: WTF is going on in here?

[EdgarCervantes] 4:31 pm: im in my room and out of nowere i hear bass im like oh shit sombody has
bass in this city, i look out the window and its my mom bumping Gorilla Zoe
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Posted 24 December 2008 - 09:48 PM

when i look at my cap it says that my battery is between 12.8 to 13.4
2001 Black Monte Carlo SS chrome 20''
(1) Alpine i-9881 deck-ipod-
(2) DC lvl 4XL 18''s-Walled-
(1) DAT Hellfire - 2500.1-fused-
(1) D3400 XS Power battery-fused-
(1) phoenix gold 6.5 comp
(1) pioneer 6x9 set-soon to be all 6.5 mids n highs in pods
(1) hifonics zues z440 highs amp-
(1) DC POWER ALT INSTALLED BY ROB FTW,Big3
--- Alarm

Moar to come!!trystar wiring,pods for moar comp sets,new wall rebuild,volt meter.

[ak11667] 6:36 pm: my bf is the queen bitch
[ak11667] 6:36 pm: and i tell him often
[BigPimpin91] 6:36 pm: WTF is going on in here?

[EdgarCervantes] 4:31 pm: im in my room and out of nowere i hear bass im like oh shit sombody has
bass in this city, i look out the window and its my mom bumping Gorilla Zoe
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