sundownz Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) Box size has alot to do with mechanical power handling. If you are going to be pushing your woofer beyond it's rated RMS power you need to be very mindful of this fact and put the woofer in no larger than the minimum suggested enclosure for music program. We design our woofers for very small enclosures and power ratings are there for a reason -- you can continue to push a driver like the SA-8 beyond RMS power and it will not be stressed whatsoever thermally by the time you can cause mechanical issues. The motor, especially on the SA-8, is VERY strong -- being an 8" driver there is limited mechanical throw available. The driver retains high motor force all the way up to the point where you can start breaking it. In any event... based on my testing so far you can expect something like the following on mechanical power handling vs. ported box size on the SA-8 : 1.25 cubic feet = 300 watts 1.00 cubic feet = 400 watts 0.8 cubic feet = ~450-500 watts 0.6 cubic feet = ~500-600 watts You may ALSO need a subsonic filter depending on box tuning. The rated RMS power is 400 watts RMS -- if you push past that you are voiding warranty coverage. We are bringing in re-cone parts and they can be fixed, though, for those of you who like to push things. If you have any doubts about your ability to monitor your listening habits just stick to the 0.60 recommendation. To re-iterate... they are not fragile. I have ton ALOT of testing on them with enormous amounts of power -- the above considers full bandwidth music program that can drop to very low frequencies and is a safe suggestion. If you are an SPL competitor then you probably already know this and these suggestions don't really apply for burps @ tuning. We have put in excess of 600% of RMS power on them for SPL burps. Edited March 30, 2010 by sundownz - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKSOLID84 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Box size has alot to do with mechanical power handling. If you are going to be pushing your woofer beyond it's rated RMS power you need to be very mindful of this fact and put the woofer in no larger than the minimum suggested enclosure for music program. We design our woofers for very small enclosures and power ratings are there for a reason -- you can continue to push a driver like the SA-8 beyond RMS power and it will not be stressed whatsoever thermally by the time you can cause mechanical issues. The motor, especially on the SA-8, is VERY strong -- being an 8" driver there is limited mechanical throw available. The driver retains high motor force all the way up to the point where you can start breaking it. In any event... based on my testing so far you can expect something like the following on mechanical power handling vs. ported box size on the SA-8 : 1.25 cubic feet = 300 watts 1.00 cubic feet = 400 watts 0.8 cubic feet = ~450-500 watts 0.6 cubic feet = ~500-600 watts You may ALSO need a subsonic filter depending on box tuning. The rated RMS power is 400 watts RMS -- if you push past that you are voiding warranty coverage. We are bringing in re-cone parts and they can be fixed, though, for those of you who like to push things. If you have any doubts about your ability to monitor your listening habits just stick to the 0.60 recommendation. To re-iterate... they are not fragile. I have ton ALOT of testing on them with enormous amounts of power -- the above considers full bandwidth music program that can drop to very low frequencies and is a safe suggestion. If you are an SPL competitor then you probably already know this and these suggestions don't really apply for burps @ tuning. We have put in excess of 600% of RMS power on them for SPL burps. is the .6 ported????.. JAMES SAID.. you dont need 1500 for a WOOFER people just love overpowering rather then building for the power recommended THATS A SMART GUY... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundownz Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 "power handling vs. ported box size on the SA-8" Per original post - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCKSOLID84 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 "power handling vs. ported box size on the SA-8" Per original post when can i just buy these????? JAMES SAID.. you dont need 1500 for a WOOFER people just love overpowering rather then building for the power recommended THATS A SMART GUY... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon15zzz Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Im sure if you email him that he will be able to help you out and answer your questions alot better and get you what you need Vehicle: 1995 Impala SSHead Unit: Pioneer AVH-P4400BHMids And Highs: (still deciding)Batteries: 1 Deka Group 34 Time to make a race car.My Build Log: Solo X 12"http://www.stevemead...don15zzz-build/My Build Log: DC lvl 4 xl 15"http://www.stevemead...don15zzz-build-My Wall Build Log: 4 Lanzar 15's/ 3k+ RMShttp://www.stevemead...t-by-techforce/My Feedback:http://www.stevemead...1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundownz Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 They are in stock now. We sold most of them on the pre-sale but some are still available. 129 + SH - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagblazer01 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 yea im gonna find out what these will do come april 10th lol. Im gonna burp a pair of them on an SAZ-3000 lol Team Sundown Audio / Team XS Power / Team SHOK SMD Super Buyer/Sellerwww.sundownaudio.com www.shokindustries.com www.4xspower.com www.excessiveamperage.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 We have put in excess of 600% of RMS power on them for SPL burps. Sweet Jesus. over 2400w rms to an 8"? Those are some solid little fuckers you've got going over there. You guys at Sundown are always setting the bar even higher. Great job! wtf is lolcats? I'd def get a fat hooker if i had to resort to that kinda thing. I feel like they'd be grateful and work harder. Also its more bang for my buck, more real estate for my dollar if you catch my drift. its like the Costco of streetwalkers. I was hoping for 150 . I was hoping she would let me put it in her butt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundownz Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Sweet Jesus. over 2400w rms to an 8"? Those are some solid little fuckers you've got going over there. You guys at Sundown are always setting the bar even higher. Great job! Yep -- in this video right here clamped ~2500 watts : - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagblazer01 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 do you think 1.5 cubes is too big for 2 of these if im gonna burp them with 3kw to the pair? Team Sundown Audio / Team XS Power / Team SHOK SMD Super Buyer/Sellerwww.sundownaudio.com www.shokindustries.com www.4xspower.com www.excessiveamperage.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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