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shit man theres a ton out there. The pioneer premier PRS components im running are only rated at 50rms but im running the set bridged at a rated 240watts rms now per side from an mb quart q4.80 and they are taking it like a champ sounding phenominal. If i were you i wouldnt worry too much about rated power thermally for components assuming you dont go crazy, in my experience its the mechanical handling youll want to be careful with coming from enclosure design and crossover point. What all are you trying to accomplish with mids and highs? btw, love your tsns build, always wanted to do something very similar, blow people away with small subs

So my question is, how do pro audio drivers and horn tweeters such as those made by selenium, eminence, the new sundowns etc. stack up sound quality wise with other speakers. I mean true sound quality, when people talk about PA drivers they always say "they get LOUD but sound really clean" or something like that but what about real tonal balance, imaging, dynamics and other important aspects needed to create an accurate sound. Yes, A LOT of that has to do with the install, amps, enclosures, and processing and whatnot but all that aside the speakers themselves will still have their own limitations. I am asking because my sub stage is about to get much louder and i am guessing my pioneer premier PRS component set run active on an MB quart Q4.80 and alpine 9887 HU still may not be enough to keep up. However, this set-up sounds damn good, these pioneers are comparable to the focal k2 power component set or the hertz hsk 165 in SQ. So after the long winded explanation, what differences have you guys who have experience with both the PA speakers as well as higher end SQ drivers noticed between the two?

it can work well with the right crossovers and processing. In my rebuild im worjing on now I am running 2 18" dc xls tuned to 29hz and they play with authority easily from 25 to 60 something but the sound quality isnt really where i would like it to be above mid 50ish hz so i cross them at that point and am testing boxes now to run 2 image dynamics id8s as well to pick up where the dcs leave off and then run to ~80hz where my mids pick up. So far its sounding great, so 8s with 18s is workin for me but like everyone is saying, seperate boxes, seperate amps

Someone may say different but for my perception, if you are building a box, ideally you dont want it to resonate at all. So if you build a solid box, out of birch, mdf, or a regular plywood, they should all sound the same. Then it comes down to cost, durability, and weight

Hope you figure out whatever the problem is! Definitely check the box, but if it does turn out to be the subs, make sure you set up the amp correctly the next time with a scope or dd-1 or you will just smoke the subs again. It will be much cheaper to buy a dd-1 than it will to buy new subs every six months. Good luck!

seems pretty likelty its just the weather...i have a stock alt still but mine does the same thing. I live in seatte so same summer temps around 80 and winter say around 40. In winter i charge at 14.8 cold and drop to maybe 14.6 warm. Right now when its hot outside im charging around 13.8 warm. Almost a whole volt drop so what you are describing doesnt seem that unreasonable

if it were me id probably do SA10s since i have always wanted to try them, they seem like they would be fun subs to play with

haha gotcha, good looks!

damn they let you take pictures there? I work at Boeing and if i ever get caught with a camera where im working right now, taking pictures or not, id probably get fired...or shot lol

Like everyone says it really depends on the vehicle. Ive seen some trucks stock that can support 2000watts no problem but my car has bad voltage drop with the setup in my sig to the point where i can't even reach full tilt before its dropping below 12v on a rollup

Oh man, thought i should share this...its from the comments on a youtube video i randomly saw, i don't even remember what i was looking for when i found it. Pretty funny though(slightly painful). For reference, the video itself was a 10 second wall socketing of an old kenwood or something, nothing exciting. haha nothing like running good ole AC through your sound system... NOT!! donttouchme124 1 year ago @donttouchme124 What do you think comes out of an amplifier? swbari00 1 year ago umm idk maybe DC idiot learn some shit before posting a dumbass comment that only makes u look bad dawggg101 1 year ago Really? You think the output of an amplifier is DC? swbari00 1 year ago i know really, whoever thinks it's dc is crazy... codex653 1 year ago uhmm yeah go to ur amp plug in a multimeter put it on DC and watch the volts go uuuuuuuupppppppppp because it is DC and btw ive done it before dumbass dawggg101 1 year ago your a fuckin moron. Just accept it. rckr68 1 year ago wait! doesnt AC come out of the wall HMMMM YEAH it does so why when he plugs a subwoofer into the wall IT MOVES ONE WAY unless he reverses it AND THEN BLOWS! ohh yeah because it is DC that comes out of an amplifeier because if it was AC then the sub would blow when you hooked it up to the amp ohh now it makes sense! dumbass dawggg101 1 year ago but btw im talking about a home receiver amp idk what ur talking about but i have measured it beore dawggg101 1 year ago wait if u meant that as a serious question then Yes. i do think that but if u meant it to be like im wrong than... Ur a dumbass dawggg101 1 year ago Jesus. It's AC. Hook a battery up to a speaker and the damn thing moves ONE direction and stays there until you remove the battery. The direction it moves depends on which way you hook up the battery. If you could ALTERNATE that current, the speaker would move in and out. LIKE ALTERNATING CURRENT, YOU KNOW. AC. Hook your DMM to an amp and set it to auto detect. It will BLOW your mind swbari00 1 year ago This guy never responded but there were these! JPutting it in the wall is like playing a 0hz sine wave. Wich is just pure electricity. Wich will melt the inner parts together. Nice fuckup (Y) RCdude101 1 year ago Ah yes i hate it when we get that dirty electricity from our amps rather than that pure wall electricity. wall socket cant blow a mtx jackhammer russellsteinhauer 3 years ago ... DUH that can handle almost two wall sockets spike1master 3 years ago DUH. WOW my subs are rated at 2 wall sockets rms and 4 wall sockets peak! Oh and this comes out of nowhere.... I agree... like Michael Jackson probably can't stop watching! PeteA216 3 years ago fucking moron who would wonder besides mentally retarded homosexual pedophiles BilliardsPlayer777 3 years ago Are you even in the correct website?! Cry4H3lp 3 years ago . . . .....Wuuuuut? Anyways enjoy

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I have no idea in hell how to do that i cant get a EQ? an EQ alone wont work. It wont be able to attenuate the frequencies outside your desired bandwidth enough to be effective, at higher volumes it just wont cut it. Look in to making crossovers, its not as hard as it sounds to design and assembly is only soldering

Nice you got the pics up! Ive always loved the yellow fi on the dust caps, should look really good with the all black theme

Id just go stinger if i were you. Its super easy to set up since it already has the remote turn on and the fact that you can count on it working consistently without worrying about random failures is worth the extra money to me. One well designed voltmeter from stinger that i can reuse in all of my rebuilds is way better than some cheap thing i find on ebay imo. A lot of electronics will do what you need for awhile but the ones that do it for as long as you need are the ones worth buying. Again this is just my opinion, more power to you if you find something cheaper that works just as well tho!

got it thanks!

Don't mean to thread jack but this caught my eye. What mid do you plan to run that will play up to 10khz without breakup? Ive been looking into 4 in mids for my rebuild and for sq (which i assume you are going for since ur using McIntosh amps) i have found that very few mids sound that good/should be crossed above 5k. Im just curious what you have in mind! To the original quesion tho, you will be fine with that small power. Depending how you listen to your system, i would say you could probably get away without the extra battery in the trunk. Just the stock alt, big three, and single 3100 up front

I would like to get a price quote on 2 xl 18s and a 5k. Also, what would the approximate delivery time frame be if the order were to be placed beginning to mid july? Thanks in advance!

^^This Youll be much happier with smaller subs in the right enclosure than larger subs in too small of a box

I have heard the AQs do well tuned around 36hz and still reach down plenty low into the twenties once broken in. Try raising your tuning a bit and see if you can get that port area per cube to 16 for these subs and see if you can still make the two fifteens fit. If not, youll be much happier with a single 18 or 2 12s with optimum box specs than two fifteens that aren't able to reach their potential. Sorry about the ticket, that sucks. Hopefully you can get to this box sooner than later. Good luck!

Not sure if you like it or not but the stripe down the side really dates the truck and i think it would look alot better without it. Depending if it is a decal or if it is not under the top clear coat it can be removed without a new paintjob. Thats probably what i would start with if i were you. I did it on my truck and it looks way better. Its quite a bit of work but cost wise its super cheap to do yourself. Do it on a hot day (shouldnt be a problem since youre in california) and get a spray on tar remover or something to spray on it and let soak in then just try to scrape/rub off and repeat over and over again. It gets tiring but is worth it in the end. Then some cheap black rims (or white depending on your style) and a tint or something and alittle trim work and that truck could look pretty sick. Good luck dude!

Nice, that actually looks really good and fits perfectly haha good shit

Definitely getting one of these as soon as pre-order starts for the build in my gfs a4. She seems to like the idea of having the most bad ass eight in the world...and i like the idea of having a reason to play with it

haha i hadn't read the description of the z series before its pretty entertaining. "Sensitivity: emo" EDIT: damn ninjas

Punctuation's not a joke. No one had any idea what you are asking. We want to help but can't if no one understands what you are saying. To what I think the original question is: Haven't heard any Saturn wagons but i have heard audi and subaru wagons. They can sound good just like any car when done right. Good luck with your build man, seems like it would be pretty unique.