Jump to content

Search the Community

Showing results for tags 'review'.

  • Search By Tags

    Type tags separated by commas.
  • Search By Author

Content Type


Forum

  • General
    • SMD Official WcCarAudio Store - All SMD Products and MORE here!
    • Recent SMD Youtube Videos
    • Off Topic - Random, Misc posts - the forum "Junk Drawer"
    • Just Meade....my projects - Tons of SMD Builds here!
    • Member Videos - Host 'em & Post 'em! System Vids / Off Topic
    • Member Rides & Builds -- Show off your whip, Show off your System!
    • SMD NEWS / ANNOUNCEMENTS
    • SMD Official Amazon Store - All SMD Products and MORE here!
    • SMD Official eBay Store - All SMD Products and MORE here!
    • SMD Forums Technical Difficulty Area - have a technical problem with the site? let us know, we will try to fix it!
    • Tunez - All things music related
    • Security Center - Car/Home Alarms, devices, tactics, tips....
    • Air Ride / Hydraulics - Got Switches? Want Switches? Post here!
    • Suspension and Brakes (4x4, street drops) - Lift it, Drop it..STOP it!
    • Interior / Exterior / Paint - Detailing, washing, waxing,tricks of the trade!
    • Engine and Performance - Anything for that couple extra horses!
    • Wheels and Tires - The rubber hits the road here!
  • System Of The Month
    • SMD FORUMS - SOTM sponsored by CE Auto Electric, XS Power, and Mechman!
  • Equipment
    • General Audio - Can't find a category for your question? Ask here.
    • Pro Audio / Home Audio / Home Theatre
    • Head Units-Processors and Eq's
    • Amplifiers
    • Williston Audio Labs / OldSchool Stereo - Classic to Current Car Audio and Amplifier Testing Lab!
    • Amp Guts
    • Mid's and highs
    • Subwoofers / Enclosures
    • Electrical-battery- Alternators- Wiring
  • SMD PARTNERS
    • wcCarAudio.com - SMD / D'Amore Engineering Products (and more)
    • Second Skin Sound Deadening and Automotive Insulation!
    • Sonic Electronix - Great Selection Great Prices
    • DC Sound Lab - Big Bass on ANOTHER LEVEL!
    • XS Power Batteries / Chargers! (and other stuff too)
    • Sundown Audio - GREAT Amps/Subs! GREAT Customer Service!
    • MechMan Alternators and 12v Accessories
    • CE Auto Electric Supply – Providing Solutions to all of your Automotive Electrical Needs
    • D'Amore Engineering - High Quality Car Audio Installation Tools & Accessories
    • Incriminator Audio
    • B2 Audio
    • AudioControl
  • WcCarAudio
  • System Design Knowledge Base
  • Fabrication, Fiberglass, Etc
  • TOOLS and TESTING Devices
    • SMD Distortion Detector (DD-1) Topics
    • SMD Crossover Callibrator (CC-1) Topics
  • Competitors Corner
    • Car Shows
    • Competitors Corner
    • Team Discussion
  • Misc Stuff
    • SPL - SOUND PRESSURE LEVEL
    • Grown Folks Buziness....18+ Approved Members Only
    • SQ - SOUND QUALITY
    • Video Games (All consoles) Ratings, previews, demos......the latest
    • Computer Talk - News, technology, advice
    • Cell Phone Central - Sprint, AT&T, Verizon - All things Cellular
    • SMD SPORTS CENTER! NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, COLLEGE....and MORE!
    • Big Boys Toys..(and girls too) dirt, sand, road, water.....discuss your toys here!
    • Guns and Ammo, etc. - guns, tasers, even lasers...all self defense weapons discussed here
    • Product Reviews - Post a review on a product you have first hand, personal experience with.
    • Tattoo Topics (and other body art) show off your tats! show off your piercings!
    • Political Arena - The one and ONLY place on this board to talk politics.
    • Help Wanted! (Job opportunities) - Need a job? Hiring?Know of a place that is? Post it. All fields welcome
    • Photo-Shop Gurus - Show off your photo-shop skills here.
    • Health and Fitness
    • Misc Electronics (non Car Audio related)
  • Misc. Manufacturers (Friends of SMD)
    • Fi Car Audio Subwoofers
    • SKAR AUDIO - (READ ONLY ARCHIVE)
  • For Sale / Want to Buy
    • Want To Buy
    • Buyer / Seller Feedback
    • HOT Deals!
    • Premium Classifieds Section
    • For Sale: Car audio related equipment only
    • SMD Garage Sale - New and Used NON Car Audio Items
    • Trading Post
  • Online Dealers
  • Your Local Shop/Dealer & Special "Read only" forums
    • SPL Lab - caraudio and racing measuring devices
    • Groundpounder2k2's Corner (Read Only Archive)
    • Audiotistics - Victorville, California - BEST SHOP in the High Desert!
    • Del Rey Customs - Innovative Solutions for Innovative People
    • Ground Pounders - Earth Shaking and still Driveable!
    • Performance Audio - Las Vegas, Nevada
    • Pulse Car Audio, Salisbury Maryland (Read Only Archive)
    • Michael Müller aka The Big Oki - Master Groundpounder!
    • Michael Hughes - AKA SPL2K
    • Defiant Audio - Smyrna Delaware (read only archive)

Product Groups

There are no results to display.

Categories

  • Off topic video's
  • Bass Demo's
  • Subwoofer Reviews
  • Installations
  • Tutorials
  • Build Series
  • Meade916 Youtube Video's

Find results in...

Find results that contain...


Date Created

  • Start

    End


Last Updated

  • Start

    End


Filter by number of...

Joined

  • Start

    End


Group


AIM


MSN


Website URL


ICQ


Yahoo


Jabber


Skype


Location


Interests

Found 3 results

  1. Alright, I have never done a review for the most part, so excuse me if this isn't to the standards of other people's. For the back story... About a week or two back I got my (single) Sundown E-12 D4 in the mail. Well packed and only a nick in the side of the box, sub was in perfect condition. My first impression of it was, wow, it has more ass than I thought. Just as PWK said, the pictures online really don't convey the real beefyness of this sub. This is pretty much my first real sub haha, I came from a 2011 model Fosgate P2 12". I ran that in mannny different enclosures, but mainly a 1.2 cube sealed box on 500 watts from an RF Prime R500-1. When I got the sub, I had already built the enclosure for it. I have it in a 2.339 cube box tuned to 32 Hz via 4" aero port (right around 11" long). The box was sitting in my bedroom until I built the false floor for my trunk. For all who own a 2000 Civic sedan, you know how flimsy the original floor is. Now it's 1/2" MDF. For an amp, I purchased a BRZ1200. I'm running the E-12 at 2 ohms, and after tuning, I feel as if I am close to around 650-700 watts when I crank it. After playing it for ~40 minutes at that power the dust cap was just warm. Remember this is a 400 watt RMS sub. I read Skip01's review of the E-15 multiple times in anticipation of my purchase of this sub, let me say, I agree with him. On to the real review... I just want to say wow. This being my first Sundown product, I am EXTREMELY impressed. Not only does it get very loud, but it sounds incredible doing so. Maybe I am just hearing what I want, but it sounds so flat in my configuration, its great. The low low bass, mid, and high bass all sound about the same volume, that in its self blows me away. This thing hits so damn hard too. People always told me with my Rockford setup that it hits hard and is super clean sounding, and I agreed. Assuming that was because of the sealed enclosure.... now, I doubt that thought because it hits harder more accurately in this ported box. I can feel the bass in my whole body, mouth, feet... everywhere when I have it way up. I just can't get enough of this thing. Makes me wonder how amazing the rest of the Sundown line is. Also, it eats all the Decaf I throw at it, on some of the lowest of the low notes, with the driver door open, my back windshield flexes a good couple mm. I don't know if this effect will ever wear off, but whenever I know there is a really deep note in a song (28-35 Hz) I expect there to be some roll off and the note to be quieter... Not with this bad boy, flat all the way down. I can't say anything but positive comments about this sub. I recommend it to anybody in the market looking for a sub that has a great combo of SQ, and loudness on a budget. This is by far the best $110 I have ever spent! Thank you so much Jacob for such a fantastic product, I am thoroughly pleased. And if anybody is wondering, I purchased through SundownOnly.com. Now if I could only afford a Sundown amp and the electrical to back it up haha. And if anybody cares, on my ear-o-meter, I'll give it a ~137-138db. And maybe a 140-142db burp. Never TL'd, and don't plan on it.
  2. So first of all, let me say that this is a subjective review, backed by some testings. Don't expect something ultra scientific - just my opinion on this beast. The subwoofer belongs to a friend of mine. It is a Sundown Zv4 rev.2 15" with NSv2 D2 coil. Here it is next to his Ground Zero Plutonium 15" and next to my humble 12". His car is an Audi A6 C4 Avant. He has an OEM 120A alt (which will be changed when possible), one 70ah AGM battery at the front and three 105ah AGM batteries at the back. He has a GZPA 1.10k HC amp, which claims to produce a bit over 10k at 1 ohm. The subwoofer box was built by me - 4,6 cu.ft. (130 litres) tuned at 32hz with an interchangeable 8" aero. Double layer mdf everywhere and triple layer baffle. And in the car: Now for some impressions. Pictures and videos do this thing no justice! If you haven't seen or touched a sub that big, it literally shocks you. I am very impressed with everything about this thing - the new cooling on the motor, the new surround, the leads.... Let me say that this is the first sundown new platform sub that I have touched with my hands. I can only imagine how big the NSv3 and the Team are... I won't post pictures of different parts of the sub - you have probably seen them already. The cooling is a bit noisy (which I think is a good thing because of the higher velocity of the air that cools the coil - Jacob could chime in on that) but the suspension itself is VERY quiet up to very high excursion. I don't think the leads will have any problems with the power you'd like to throw at it. Mechanically this thing is top notch - the linear excursion is high enough to ensure high spl levels without much distortion and the hard bottom limits of the motor/coil are pretty hard to reach. You will more likely stress the soft parts before the coil gets close to the bottom - we will get to that part later. Thermally - WOW! For a "2000" rms sub this thing cools like a champ! Good job on that! I know that this particular one is with a bit longer coil (from NSv2) but you get the idea. When we first loaded the sub, we expected that it won't require much power and we will have to bring down the gains from the previous setup (GZPW 15SPL tuned at 47hz, wired at 0,5 ohm). Boy, was I mistaken! We only had to adjust the filters a bit. If the power we gave it was clean - no signs of any smell or overheating. It only smelled when the power was clipped. Keep in mind that the sub was rather new on that moment, so It wasn't broken in completely. From then to now there is a night and day difference. With this 10k amp, wired at 1 ohm and with this box, we didn't experience any mechanical trouble near or above tuning. The amp would start clipping before we could stress the suspention enough to turn it down. We left the LPF at 40hz with 12db slope. Of course, we had to use subsonic, but nothing drastic. When the cone exceeds its linear travel, the suspension starts stressing and there is BL distortion, so it gets a bit loud mechanically, but we're talking over 3" p-p. Mechanical limit of the motor is over 4" as you all know - we didn't dare reach it. It's not healthy for the driver either Surprisingly, even with a 32hz tuning and a bigger than suggested box, it played the higher frequencies quite well - was very surprised on that! I wanted to tune this thing at 28-29, but there wasn't enough space for that - we used a straight aeroport and we had to keep an adequate distance between the walls and the mouths of the port. Next box will definitely be slightly bigger on volume and lower on tuning! On its first competition it did 151,7db at 36hz on the dash - driver's door open and with people pushing the doors. It also did 135,6db at 25hz, 149db at 33hz and 149,7db at 40hz. It wasn't broken in completely, but I can't say how much that will affect the scores. We measured the power going to the sub on different frequencies using the clamping method, which is NOT the most adequate way to do this, but it gets the work done. There was NO clipping during these tests, therefore the sub stayed cool the whole time and there wasn't any sign of smell, even when measuring at tuning. I'll just put the numbers we got at tuning (32hz) and at best score (36hz). These tests were NOT done when we measured the system on the competition - when we measure we introduce a bit of clipping to get the score higher. System voltage stayed between 12.3-12.8 during the tests. At 36hz 116.1V x 24.7A = 2867 watts, rising to 4,7 ohms At 32hz 109.9V x 44.0A = 4835 watts, rising to 2,5 ohms I repeat, these tests were done with no clipping and without fully charged batteries. The test tones were played for a couple of seconds to ensure that the sub doesn't have any problems with longer playing on that power. The power needed to achieve the scores I mentioned earlier would have been a bit higher. So yeah, I can pretty much say that on 2000 watts, be it clamped or with a 2-3k amp, this subwoofer will have ABSOLUTELY NO problems (if it is clean, of course). If you keep the power clean and adjust the subsonic properly, you could feed this thing A LOT of power. And that's daily - on burp it could and would handle much more. I don't even understand how people can listen to this with a 3-4k amp for example - it just begs for more (clean) power! If I could wire this thing at 0,5 ohm on this 10k amp (after getting proper alternator) - I'd deffinitely do it. It's better to keep a powerful amp down, rather than clipping a smaller one. Of course, with higher power comes greater responsibility, so I'd have to adjust the gains and filters accordingly, but overal I don't think I'll have a problem and it will perform better than now. Do I recommend on going over the rated power? Absolutely no! At least for those who don't know what they are doing. You will void your warranty and may damage the subwoofer. Thank you for your time, hope you enjoyed my review! Here's a little "shirt" trick for finale. Wait a bit for the good part.
×
×
  • Create New...