invert or no a level 6 18

[PurfectlyInsane]

You want to know why you need to have pictures of your work.....there is no way for anyone here to know who you are or what you have done without pictures and videos of your work. I mean seriously think about it, this is a worldwide site and very few people actually know each other here. Show us what you have done and prove that you actually know what you are talking about and have put it to use in your own installs or you can just sit there behind your computer and continue to be a keyboard warrior.

The bottom line here is that if you want your opinion to be respected here then show us your work. As it has already been said, pictures are worth a thousand words.

I don't want to re read your novel.

And making a posting saying that isn't something everybody wants to read either.

But I agree, making a long post giving a explanation detail isn't worth reading.

Do us all a favor and jump off your high horse. Your smart ass attitude and holier than thou behavior wont last long around here if it continues.

As for you clearing up all the bullshit? Prove you knowledge to actually give out proper advice or STFU. Pictures are worth a 1000 words so stop being a pussy and get YOUR work up for everyone to see.

What's the point of me posting pictures? What's that got to with anything?

The A team- I wish I could of seen your original post because your short version didn't quiet get the point across.

Are you saying a normal mounted sub will be louder a 100% of the time? No matter the install? And your using Extreme and SS vehicles as your example?

And to whoever said check mate, like that's really a infinite answer and a 100% fact. Lol.

Seems this site is caught up on WHO you are, not what you know.

Or the louder you are, the more you know. Psht.

I still don't see the point on anybody knowing who I am or what I've personally done. I'm not asking for respect for that. And what I've personally done is irrelevant to this thread and most of the post I will make.

There's plenty of people that know a lot but haven't actually applied it to a actually install.

Example, just because I haven't personally tested a certain idea, doesn't mean I can't come to a conclusion of the outcome.

Me showing pictures of equipment I run or install I currently have shouldn't reflect any knowledge I have, or anybody else for that matter.

People like myself research 100 times more before I even consider making a purchase or doing a install.

I don't buy and build now, then figure out what I'm doing, like most.

Still, most of the replies or conclusions I make will have little to do with something I personally have installed.

You think I've tested inverted subs vs normal? No. But I can tell you there are to many variables to give a defiant answer. In ANY INSTALL.

That's just understanding how to properly test. Still doesn't mean I have the resources to conclude such tests. Invalid tests are just as useless as no testing at all.

Yet plenty of people test and don't consider the effect of the uncontrollable variables or account for them. And give out there tested info as facts.

Do I really need to go on? I still see no point in me showing anything, I'm not here for that. I'm here to gather info and give out proper info. If somebody doesn't think I'm right? Do REAL research, not just on THIS site. People don't realize how much knowledge you can actually have by only knowing certain things.

If don't you like my posts, simple don't read them. And definitely don't complain about them. Things would be a lot simpler if you just avoided it all together.

Also, I haven't seen where I been a smart ass either to the people who said I have. Minus the one reply to Dwight, but he was one first.

[sprkn_ranger]

Owning the "one of the loudest vehicles" doesn't mean you know it all.

I gave reason behind my post, he didn't. So until he explains why he has his theory, there isn't nothing else to say.

Yea I'd like to see the reasoning behind his statement. I have inverted subs and never heard an audible difference from doing so.

Plus I can own a top fuel funny car, but not understand why it makes 8000 HP.

I like that analogy about the funny car. Raises a great point... Whether i understand why it makes so much power i still have the common sense not to drive the car in reverse down the track the quickest! And I always put my parachute on the front or the rear of the vehicle? lol I forget.... But then again maybe i am not a total idiot either and understand the working of an internal combustion engine and i just have a real bad sense of direction?

Good point! And I hope you took no offense to my post, meant no disrespect at all

I didn't understand the difference till you explained it a few posts ago. It was such an easy explanation I'm surprised more people don't realize the difference! Thanks for clearing it up without all the B.S....

[BulletInjection]

You want to know why you need to have pictures of your work.....there is no way for anyone here to know who you are or what you have done without pictures and videos of your work. I mean seriously think about it, this is a worldwide site and very few people actually know each other here. Show us what you have done and prove that you actually know what you are talking about and have put it to use in your own installs or you can just sit there behind your computer and continue to be a keyboard warrior.

The bottom line here is that if you want your opinion to be respected here then show us your work. As it has already been said, pictures are worth a thousand words.

I don't want to re read your novel.

And making a posting saying that isn't something everybody wants to read either.

But I agree, making a long post giving a explanation detail isn't worth reading.

Do us all a favor and jump off your high horse. Your smart ass attitude and holier than thou behavior wont last long around here if it continues.

As for you clearing up all the bullshit? Prove you knowledge to actually give out proper advice or STFU. Pictures are worth a 1000 words so stop being a pussy and get YOUR work up for everyone to see.

What's the point of me posting pictures? What's that got to with anything?

The A team- I wish I could of seen your original post because your short version didn't quiet get the point across.

Are you saying a normal mounted sub will be louder a 100% of the time? No matter the install? And your using Extreme and SS vehicles as your example?

And to whoever said check mate, like that's really a infinite answer and a 100% fact. Lol.

Seems this site is caught up on WHO you are, not what you know.

Or the louder you are, the more you know. Psht.

I still don't see the point on anybody knowing who I am or what I've personally done. I'm not asking for respect for that. And what I've personally done is irrelevant to this thread and most of the post I will make.

There's plenty of people that know a lot but haven't actually applied it to a actually install.

Example, just because I haven't personally tested a certain idea, doesn't mean I can't come to a conclusion of the outcome.

Me showing pictures of equipment I run or install I currently have shouldn't reflect any knowledge I have, or anybody else for that matter.

People like myself research 100 times more before I even consider making a purchase or doing a install.

I don't buy and build now, then figure out what I'm doing, like most.

Still, most of the replies or conclusions I make will have little to do with something I personally have installed.

You think I've tested inverted subs vs normal? No. But I can tell you there are to many variables to give a defiant answer. In ANY INSTALL.

That's just understanding how to properly test. Still doesn't mean I have the resources to conclude such tests. Invalid tests are just as useless as no testing at all.

Yet plenty of people test and don't consider the effect of the uncontrollable variables or account for them. And give out there tested info as facts.

Do I really need to go on? I still see no point in me showing anything, I'm not here for that. I'm here to gather info and give out proper info. If somebody doesn't think I'm right? Do REAL research, not just on THIS site. People don't realize how much knowledge you can actually have by only knowing certain things.

If don't you like my posts, simple don't read them. And definitely don't complain about them. Things would be a lot simpler if you just avoided it all together.

Also, I haven't seen where I been a smart ass either to the people who said I have. Minus the one reply to Dwight, but he was one first.

What info did you pick up and where that has made you come to the conclusion that mounting inverted yields the same results.

[iKidwell]

I don't want to re read your novel.

And making a posting saying that isn't something everybody wants to read either.

But I agree, making a long post giving a explanation detail isn't worth reading.

Do us all a favor and jump off your high horse. Your smart ass attitude and holier than thou behavior wont last long around here if it continues.

As for you clearing up all the bullshit? Prove you knowledge to actually give out proper advice or STFU. Pictures are worth a 1000 words so stop being a pussy and get YOUR work up for everyone to see.

What's the point of me posting pictures? What's that got to with anything?

The A team- I wish I could of seen your original post because your short version didn't quiet get the point across.

Are you saying a normal mounted sub will be louder a 100% of the time? No matter the install? And your using Extreme and SS vehicles as your example?

And to whoever said check mate, like that's really a infinite answer and a 100% fact. Lol.

Seems this site is caught up on WHO you are, not what you know.

Or the louder you are, the more you know. Psht.

hey purfect, just wanted to let you know something

FUCK YOU and stop trying to argue with people when you havent proven shit

[PurfectlyInsane]

Double post.

Edited April 4, 2011 by PurfectlyInsane

[PurfectlyInsane]

I didn't say they will yield the same results. Not in a install anyways.

And most people wouldn't understand what all it would take to properly test the differences.

And I think the Fuck You is a little uncalled for. Hell you wasn't even involved in this thread, so I'm not sure what your problem is.

Only thing I'm defending is the right to let my post and the info I say speak for itself. You shouldn't need to know who I am, what I've done.

When you test equipment you don't need to know the designers background history to figure out if he designed a good product or not. Same should appLy.

Hell, I'm not even claiming some outragous statement as the truth and trying to convince everybody. Nobody has yet to say anything about my actually posts. Well, one agreed.

Honestly, this forum is something else. I've never seen people act this in my life.

[Cashdollar2009]

Here's a question for A Team. I know who you are. I trust you. How would the difference be made when used in a ported enclosure application?

I understand your statement as if you were to test it in an infinite baffle application, the front of the cone has no motor/basket/etc obstruction as the rear wave would see. But in a ported enclosure, are you not STILL implemented both the front AND rear wave? Whereas in either situation, the front and rear wave would both be used to achieve output?

If you say it is true, then I trust your words a lot more than my quick brainstorming session. But using a common sense approach to this topic, this is what still has me curious?

[PurfectlyInsane]

This will be my last post in this thread. I don't need to prove anything, as my statement shouldof spoke for itself. But read it one last time.

You can't give a defiant answer if there will be any differences inverting or not.

It would be install dependant.

If it you could prove, what A-Team is trying to preach, it will not apply to everything.

That is all I said. To many variables in each install will yield different results.

That's like asking, will 1000 watts ALWAYS be louder than 999watts?

A slight variable in testing could yelid the 999 on top.

Edited April 4, 2011 by PurfectlyInsane

[kevin ribeiro]

need some opinions

so i was thinking and looking at the basket and motor on the level 6 18 its to sexy and i was thinking y not invert the sub but then agian does that effect a lot of things like db wise sq how loud it gets

soon im do a build and its going to be a nice and clean install so if that level 6 was inverted it would look sick but just want to see your opinons and thoughts

1 dc audio level 6 18

its just to sexy to be in a box hahahhahahha but whats got to be done im take more pics when i get my camara and ill do a lil woofer porn post for you guys to look at

so if i invert the beast ima need a smaller box with a smaller box i posted a week or two ago about what size box at 9krms and some of you guys told me 5cubes now if i invert the sub my box is going to be even smaller and if so will i be able do move some air i wanted to do some hair tricks and bottle tricks and choke and tap out of my own car will i be able to do that with a smaller box i cant see that happeing but any ideas if not that i rather just not invert the beast and just do it regular

and SORRY if i made a couple of you guys mad at each other i just wanted some opinions and i got a ton ahahhahhaahhahhahahhah thanks this forum has helped out a lot

[CJ18]

When you were told 5 cubes, that was after displacements. So if you were to mount the sub normally you would have to build it 5ft3 + sub and port displacements. Now when you invert the sub you build the box 5ft + port displacement. Both still leaving you with 5ft3 of airspace.