blownengine Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 So my friend just got a new 2011 Jetta and we are starting the build on this car that is only a few weeks old. So in the trunk behind both wheel wells is a space big enough to put an amp on each side so I want to fiberglass a rack in on each side. The way I was going to do it (or how I fiberglassed in the past) was the cover everything with painters tape, make a mold, and then build off that. So here is where I need some more experienced minds. How do I keep all the fiberglass and resin from just sliding down to the bottom since it is a semi-vertical surface? Do I let the resin sit and get tacky first? Any help would be great Thanks guys, Dan 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT (Yea its got a Hemi)Alpine CDA-105KnuKonceptz 0ga CCA Big 3 with Yellow Top 15" SoundQubed HDC3DC Audio 1.2K (Bass)Pioneer 6x9's (Front)Pioneer 6.5's (Rear)Kicker 3.5's (Dash)Sony amp on the highs. (Hey it was free) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeejayBee Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 tape the whole area off and resin that then go from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSkippyJ Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Resin should be thick enough to stick. Some will run down but most should stay. Just gotta deal with what runs down. F150: Stock 2019 Harley Road Glide: Amp: TM400Xad - 4 channel 400 watt Processor: DSR1 Fairing (Front) 6.5s -MMats PA601cx Lid (Rear) 6x9s - TMS69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLun Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 One question, do you plan on foiling on top of the tape? if so then you can do this, apply a light coat of resin on top of the foil, apply the fiberglass mat (not chopped mat, it's just too messy) once it sticks, apply a coat or 2 on the mat (ensuring it is wet thru), then move to the next area. lay about 2-3 layers let dry then remove. the resin is gonna drip no matter what just work from the top to the bottom and let gravity help you out along the way. I hope that answered your question. 2006 Dodge Charger (2) Kinetic 3800 (1) DC Power 270XP (4) T1-12D4 (1) T2500BDCP (2) T400.4 7.5 cubic ft. (2) 6 in ports thru the rear deck (2) T165.2 (2) T169.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blownengine Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Thanks everyone for replying so fast! Chris do I need to use foil? In the past I only used tape and the resin never penetrated. 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT (Yea its got a Hemi)Alpine CDA-105KnuKonceptz 0ga CCA Big 3 with Yellow Top 15" SoundQubed HDC3DC Audio 1.2K (Bass)Pioneer 6x9's (Front)Pioneer 6.5's (Rear)Kicker 3.5's (Dash)Sony amp on the highs. (Hey it was free) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 This is why they make lay up resin. You can spray glue the mat to the tape, then do a first "cold" coat. Let dry, then work as normal. 2008 California state record holder 157.2 Bassrace2009 California state record holder 157.0 BassraceRollin 50's 158.7db2009 King of Cali Bassrace2009 USACi score 160.5 @ 42hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blownengine Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 This is why they make lay up resin. You can spray glue the mat to the tape, then do a first "cold" coat. Let dry, then work as normal. Whoa whoa. So glue the mat on with contact spray or something? And sorry but what is a cold coat? Noobie here. 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT (Yea its got a Hemi)Alpine CDA-105KnuKonceptz 0ga CCA Big 3 with Yellow Top 15" SoundQubed HDC3DC Audio 1.2K (Bass)Pioneer 6x9's (Front)Pioneer 6.5's (Rear)Kicker 3.5's (Dash)Sony amp on the highs. (Hey it was free) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNKYOU007 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) Yes Spray glue FTW! You could spray contact cement thru a gun but not really called for...just use this Edited June 20, 2011 by PUNKYOU007 Doethepaperboy "Bars of Pain" Doethepaperboy "Hero Remix" C. Arson d(-__-)b beer sucks...but i can bring some jose cuervo. Only problem is that it makes me horny and gives me the rams. So unless yall wanna fight and then have some great make up sex i will leave it home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLun Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) This is why they make lay up resin. You can spray glue the mat to the tape, then do a first "cold" coat. Let dry, then work as normal. You don't have to, we do at my shop. I have done it that way for years. But as ray has stated you can you use a spray adhesive, spray a light coat, lay your mat and it will stick just the same. When working in other people car, I have done it this way. My method is as follows but please use what works best for you... Tape off my area Apply a light coat of spray adhesive to the tape Apply my foil in strips to the area going to to be glassed (overlapping them or laying them side by side as close as possible for no gaps) Apply a few coats of wax ( so that the foil peels off easy) Then I start by either sticking my mat to the foil by using small amounts of resin, then laying the mat on top to stick, or using the spray adhesive make the mat sick then working from top to bottom. depending on how large the area and how "hot" you mix your resin I can normally get a good area one with one quart size container. But Ray's method work just as well also.. Edited June 20, 2011 by ChrisLun 2006 Dodge Charger (2) Kinetic 3800 (1) DC Power 270XP (4) T1-12D4 (1) T2500BDCP (2) T400.4 7.5 cubic ft. (2) 6 in ports thru the rear deck (2) T165.2 (2) T169.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EpicenterDesigns Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) I know everyone has their own methods for what works for them and thats great. I have use foil 2 times and in the end, I wondered why I used the foil. Why do YOU use the foil? My method is like this..... tape the area up vertically overlapping the areas you want your edge to end. Then tape the same area horizontally. Then wax it a few times. Apply a thin coat of resin and then add mat. 1.5oz chopped mat is all I recommend. I suggest 3 - 4 layers of 1.5oz before you pull the mold and then add some after that. If you use less weight mat (box store mat packs are .75oz) then more layers will be needed IMO. Use a fiberglass roller to push the resin into the mat and get out all the bubbles. Oh yeah, besure to protect all the surrounding areas with drop cloths/plastic. Resin likes to wander around when you least expect it. Edited June 21, 2011 by EpicenterDesigns Building The Best.....Repairing The Rest The bitter after-taste of a poor quality job will last far longer than the sweetness of that cheap price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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