Hunters21w Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Apparently they had to discontinue the SMD version alts you have because a supplier does not produce the same type of metal that they used in that version. I forget exactly what the metal went to. Therefore they are making the new SMD version. Which looks very badass! I'm just worried about getting a pair of 340s and wishing I had just upgraded to the 370s. Quote 06 Police TahoeHU- Pioneer 80prsAmp- Crossfire 8kSub- 4 15" Crossfire xs v2sWire- 1/0 Knu/AudiotechnixAlt- 3 Mechman SMD 340sBatts- 6 XS Power 3100s, 2400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECHMAN Posted September 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 OK here's the deal 2011 SMD alts specs: DR44G based 3 phase large case GM internals single solid copper rectifier w/ 8 press fit high amp diodes pretty good stuff 2012 SMD alt specs: 6 phase round wire stator twin radial finned rectifiers w/ 16 surface mount diodes Really good stuff 2013 SMD alt specs: 6 phase hairpin stator twin rectifier plates with 12 press fit high amp diodes Gucci stuff Hope that explains it. I don't believe that we have ever gotten back an overheated SMD unit. (any version) While it is never a good idea to run ANY alternator balls out all day long, these units will take a fair amount of abuse, and still last 100,000 miles under normal use. 1 Quote 1-888-MECHMAN www.Mechman.com [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWIFT Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 OK here's the deal 2011 SMD alts specs: DR44G based 3 phase large case GM internals single solid copper rectifier w/ 8 press fit high amp diodes pretty good stuff 2012 SMD alt specs: 6 phase round wire stator twin radial finned rectifiers w/ 16 surface mount diodes Really good stuff 2013 SMD alt specs: 6 phase hairpin stator twin rectifier plates with 12 press fit high amp diodes Gucci stuff Hope that explains it. I don't believe that we have ever gotten back an overheated SMD unit. (any version) While it is never a good idea to run ANY alternator balls out all day long, these units will take a fair amount of abuse, and still last 100,000 miles under normal use. I love mine!! The thing is a beast, keeps my voltage where it needs to be!!! Quote 2012 F250 Lariat 6.7, lifted on 22's and 35's 4 DSS Ethos 18's walled tuned low 2 Ampere Audio 7500.1's, Ampere 125.4 Rockford Pro Audio front stage 9 batteries, Mechman Elite 370 alt Team DSS, Team Ampere Audio 2014 Meca Mod 3 TN State champ / 3rd place Mod 3 World Finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phototini_xB Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Just curious here, but if you can get 370a out of these little GM cases what do you think you could achieve with a Leece 320a? Quote 2012 Scion xB Build- http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/150000-2012-scion-xb-temp-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunkjuice1 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 Gucci SMD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECHMAN Posted September 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 [ Just curious here, but if you can get 370a out of these little GM cases what do you think you could achieve with a Leece 320a? Comparing one of the new 6 phase hairpin SMD 370's to a Leece Neville, is like comparing a Ferrari to a 57 Chevy. LN units use 60 year old technology, and have virtually no airflow to cool the stator or rectifier, which is why they fail all the time when pushed past 300 amps or so. Also, even though they are HUGE (too big to fit on most passenger vehicles) they are not capable of anywhere near the idle output of the SMD 370. Leece Nevilles are pretty much boat anchors. You can't touch 6 phase hairpin stator technology in terms of performance, efficiency, or durability. Quote 1-888-MECHMAN www.Mechman.com [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedTalent Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 And this is why I'm saddened that Mech does not make or offer any help for my alternator needs. So helpful and knowledgeable. I did contact and was told and I quote... "Oh bummer. We don't have anything for that car." ;( Sad day when that email was received. Quote Sheena = pedobear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phototini_xB Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) [ Just curious here, but if you can get 370a out of these little GM cases what do you think you could achieve with a Leece 320a? Comparing one of the new 6 phase hairpin SMD 370's to a Leece Neville, is like comparing a Ferrari to a 57 Chevy. LN units use 60 year old technology, and have virtually no airflow to cool the stator or rectifier, which is why they fail all the time when pushed past 300 amps or so. Also, even though they are HUGE (too big to fit on most passenger vehicles) they are not capable of anywhere near the idle output of the SMD 370. Leece Nevilles are pretty much boat anchors. You can't touch 6 phase hairpin stator technology in terms of performance, efficiency, or durability. That's funny, you won't see any small cases on any vehicles that require real amperage output.... Edited September 18, 2012 by Phototini_xB Quote 2012 Scion xB Build- http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/150000-2012-scion-xb-temp-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontierGello Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) mine does maximum output at 900 rpm. 350 amp mechman. changed the pulley Edited September 18, 2012 by Lowlife15 Quote Nissan Frontier 10" Cadence Midbass 8" Cadnece Midrange Bullet tweets 2 Re audio Sxx 15 Subs Mechman 270a 2 Re XT4000deV3 mono 1600 rms 1 Re XT400deV3 Bridged 350x2 2 Cadence 175.4 Bridged 350x2 Audiomaxx and Stinger 0,4,8,12 awg wires Dynamat sound deadeners My Build Log: http://www.stevemead...__+1999 +nissan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECHMAN Posted September 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 [ Just curious here, but if you can get 370a out of these little GM cases what do you think you could achieve with a Leece 320a? Comparing one of the new 6 phase hairpin SMD 370's to a Leece Neville, is like comparing a Ferrari to a 57 Chevy. LN units use 60 year old technology, and have virtually no airflow to cool the stator or rectifier, which is why they fail all the time when pushed past 300 amps or so. Also, even though they are HUGE (too big to fit on most passenger vehicles) they are not capable of anywhere near the idle output of the SMD 370. Leece Nevilles are pretty much boat anchors. You can't touch 6 phase hairpin stator technology in terms of performance, efficiency, or durability. That's funny, you won't see any small cases on any vehicles that require real amperage output.... Actually, you do. Many Sterling, Ford and Dodge 4500 and larger Medium Duty Trucks, as well as many other heavy duty trucks all use the same 6 phase hairpin internals. Almost all Late model ambulance package's come with this technology as well. I suspect you will see this technology replace the LN units that you see on heavy duty trucks. The only reason you see Leece Neviles on anything, is because most heavy truck outfitters are ignorant, and don't want to change away from what they already know how to work on, and stock parts to repair. LN's have very little cooling, and a tiny rectifier in comparison to the size of the unit. Also, being three phase, they are wasting a lot of energy in the form of heat. The only advantage that I could see to an LN, is that they have really long brushes for extremely long wear life. (even though the rectifier is usually what fails first) Brushes for our 6 phase units are $7, and take 5 minutes to replace, without even having to take apart the alternator. 1 Quote 1-888-MECHMAN www.Mechman.com [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.