1 Sock Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 I don’t know much about much but this is how I do it. Hopefully I’m not too far off. You can search the web and Find out the scientific explanations if you like. I like to do dumb it down a bit when I do it! This helped me a lot and hopefully it will help out others as well. Get the Specs of your sub off the internet if you do not have them handy The tuning and port length is a simple math equation. Divide 1130 by the FS of your sub divide that by 4 and then multiply it by 12. Or: 1130 / FS / 4 * 12 = port length in inches. Here is the math on a lot of common frequencies rounded to the nearest quarter inch: 20hz = 169.5” 22hz = 154” 24hz = 141.25” 26hz = 130.5” 28hz = 121” 30hz = 113” 32hz = 106” 33hz = 102.75” 34hz = 99.75” 35hz = 97” 36hz = 94.25” 37hz = 91.5” 38hz = 89.25” 39hz = 87” 40hz = 84.75” You should choose Tuning right around the FS of your sub. PORT AREA: For Port area you can measure and do a bunch of math. Or you could us this handy Cone area of a subwoofer Chart that someone on here pointed me to! Figure out what you are working with. Rounding the numbers makes the dimensions easier to work with later on. Two 12" = 226.19, I round to 200 So Two 12” subs needs an internal port of 10”x20” or 12.5”x16” or 8”x25” can be whatever you want as long as the length times width equals 200 and the port has enough depth for the sub to mount. If you are firing subs and port back measure your max box height and subtract 1.5” if you are firing subs and port up measure your max box depth and subtract 1.5” that number you end up with is the max height of the port. Max box height is 21.5”? Subtract 1.5 and 20” is your max port height. 20”x10”= 200” If I am wrong don't murder me. I’m using the box I am building as reference. My enclosures max dimensions are: 60”Wide 30”Tall 17”Deep 2 Fi BL 12” Specs: Fs: 35.2 Hz rounded down to 35 Qms: 4.68 Qes: .25 Qts: .24 Sub OD: 12.5” Cut ID: 11.125” Mounting depth: 6.75” Mounting depth is 6.75 so the port has to be at least 6.75 wide Port Length: 1130/FS/4*12 = port length in inches. So I got 1130/35/4*12 = 97 inches Port Size: I used THIS chart for cone area. 2 12’s have 200” of area. The internal area of the port has to be around 200” So height X width = 200” 15.5*13= 201.5" So a box for my 12’s tuned to 35hz needs a 97” long port that is 13” wide by 15.5” tall. Box using my max Dimensions I lay out my port. I am using a double baffle since my subs will be firing up. I start the port on the right and add the port width measurements of 13” The height is going to be the port widths + the Wood 1.5+13+.75+13+.75 = 29” So I know my box will be 29” tall. Now I draw a line down center of the port. I am looking for the length of the right side up to the dotted line and the left side. First measurements are 21.75” 7.25” and 13.75” 21.75+13.75+7.25= 42.75” My port needs to be 97” 97-42.75= 54.25 I need 54.25” more of port length. The port will end at the center of the rear sub which is 6.25” from the wall 6.25+54.25= 60.5 divide that by 2= 60.5/2= 30.25” each length will need to be 30.25” long Add your port lines up 21.75+7.25+30.25+13.75+24= 97” Measure 6.5” from center of the left and right of the center line to get the final left side width. You end up with a box that is 52”x29” with 97” of port. Raise the port walls to 15.5” add the front and back of the box and you get 17” deep Final dimensions are 52”x29”x17” For the 45’s I measured in 13” and 13.75” from the corners and made a 45 degree lines Measure my Cutouts for my Baffle: Added a few 1” dowels Final: Cut Sheet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Sock Posted August 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 .75" Baltic Birch Dry Fit: Used a pocket hole jig on the port walls. Used 13" pieces of wood to lock in the port dimensions. 45's in Added Dowels and Painted the port. Tested some bed liner spray paint. Works OK but I think i will go with roll on bed liner. Rounded over all my edges. This is where I stand right now. Waiting on speaker wire before I finish painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranny Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 arent you supposed to have the speakers vertical, not horizontal? because the one closer to the port is "farther away" internally than the other one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmike Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) ^^^ i believe i read the same . but the box looks great. Edited August 7, 2012 by Bmike Quote 2007 trailblazer lthead unit- pioneer p4300dvd crescendo ft-1 supertweeters pioneer m650 pros audiocontrol 2xs crossover Rockford fosgate p200-2 highsrockford fosgate p400-2 mids1- fi btl 18amps- saz 3500battery- evermax in front, 2 9a31 dekas in rearwires all knuconceptz 1/0 and rcas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john253a Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 arent you supposed to have the speakers vertical, not horizontal? because the one closer to the port is "farther away" internally than the other one. That is correct, Also the port length is not from wall it's from furthest edge of sub Bu I like to use the centre of sub Secondly 1 sub is going to unload more then the other due to firing down the port And there's no port restriction to, normal you'll build you the wall with another 3/4 to assist is pressure differences, making it a more free flowing box But all this in a perfict world, witch we are not I don't think you'll notice it to much sq wish and I will still sound good Just keep the power low and you'll be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
412 CVX Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 I swear i've seen that program before.. i could just never figure out how the hell to use it. can you lead me in the right direction? Quote Just say no to Ground Pounder Customs. My temp system build log More box buildssome cars do over 170db with one sub, so clearly my two 12"s can do that in my car, with my knowledge too! look out bitches! I'm with captain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranny Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 is it cutlist plus? thats what i use and it looks similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qu1cks1lver56 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Just like the 2 10" T-Line I had back in highschool. You'll love it. Mine sounded amazing to be 500w and 2 cheap 10's Quote First Gen Xterra: Always changing DNX 690HD RF 360.3RF T3002RF T4004RF T10001bdSilver Flute 6.5"s Tang Band 1" TweetersSundown X18 in 7cubes net tuned to 32hz Trust me .25 Blows your Load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Sock Posted August 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 I swear i've seen that program before.. i could just never figure out how the hell to use it. can you lead me in the right direction? I used Google Sketchup and cutlist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Sock Posted August 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 arent you supposed to have the speakers vertical, not horizontal? because the one closer to the port is "farther away" internally than the other one. That is correct, Also the port length is not from wall it's from furthest edge of sub Bu I like to use the centre of sub Secondly 1 sub is going to unload more then the other due to firing down the port And there's no port restriction to, normal you'll build you the wall with another 3/4 to assist is pressure differences, making it a more free flowing box But all this in a perfict world, witch we are not I don't think you'll notice it to much sq wish and I will still sound good Just keep the power low and you'll be fine 1st TLine, Thanks for the input, I will keep that in mind if I build another down the road. What do you mean when you say port restriction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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