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AMI - think about this for a second . . . if what you say is true then every single accessory in the vehicle would be grounded to the battery negative terminal. Let's not confuse "low resistance ground" with "ground".

In addition, the battery is not really "in circuit" with the accessories in a running vehicle with a properly functioning alternator. Since the alternator has a higher voltage potential, Ohm's Law dictates that current will flow from it to the accessories and into the battery. The battery is unique in that it at times supplies power (IE - start the engine) and at times it consumes power (IE - maintaining a surface charge).

I do have a reason for asking this question. I'll address that soon.

So I guess depending on when you are requiring the current in "time" would depend on where the electrical return path would come from. Car off, the grounding path of the whole car returns back to the battery. Car starting, uses the return from that same said battery source path. Car running, alternator as grounding point. Okay, I'll agree with that. So why in your other "simple" question, would the ground wire from the block to the battery not be useful? After all the battery is there as a maintaining source for when the electrical consumes more voltage then the alt can deliver. Would you not want to decrease resistance so the flow recovery is that much faster? I think depending on the electrical demand, the battery, or batteries are very much an important part of the circuit.

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What I said is true every single accessory is connected to the battery neg via the frame. That is why all the stuff in the vehicle work with the vehicle off, it is the connection point to complete the circuit. Take any accessory you want from the vehicle, radio, headlights, amplifiers. Whatever take it out of the vehicle completely connect to a battery power to + post and ground to neg post and guess what it works, you aren't connecting the ground to ground lol but to the neg post.

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AMI - let's say that we had a 14 Volt power supply, 12 Volt battery, and a headlight connected together as follows on our workbench:

Power Supply (+) connected to Battery Positive (+) connected to Headlight Positive (+)

Power Supply (-) connected to Battery Negative (-) connected to Headlight Negative (-)

Consider the following:

- Path of current flow to the headlight with the Power Supply OFF

- Path of current flow to the headlight with the Power Supply ON

- Direction of current flow between the Power Supply and Battery with the Power Supply ON

- Direction of current flow between the Power Supply and Battery with the Power Supply OFF

Finally, will the headlight still work if we remove the battery (and it's negative terminal) from the circuit altogether?

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I think you are overcomplicating things. You removing a battery from an electrical circuit doesnt change a whole lot. Lets just break this down to simple polarity. Since a "ground" can be positive or negative, then a ground is anything in the circuit that will cause a short when connected to the opposite polarity from the power source. Whatever polarity the ground is. We are speaking of DC circuits right? Cause i don't want to get into 2 phase and 3 phase crap.

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I guess ill take a stab.. after 5 pages of rhetoric and no answer, I might as.well :P

The ground in the car ie:. The return path.. so from the accessories ground to negative ground on battery to alt ground to engine block ground to the chassis. The positive current should meet.the negative at some point to equal zero.

So you follow that point from the accessories to the bat to alt .. if there was.no bat and no alt. There's no electricity it the car. So I'm saying

Answer:. The charging stud.of the alt. :P hope I'm right

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I guess ill take a stab.. after 5 pages of rhetoric and no answer, I might as.well :P

The ground in the car ie:. The return path.. so from the accessories ground to negative ground on battery to alt ground to engine block ground to the chassis. The positive current should meet.the negative at some point to equal zero.

So you follow that point from the accessories to the bat to alt .. if there was.no bat and no alt. There's no electricity it the car. So I'm saying

Answer:. The charging stud.of the alt. :P hope I'm right

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