testtones Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 a competitor in a power limited class doesn't care what power the amp makes @ 2 or 4 or 8 ohms. all that matters is how much power they make in the car at x impedance ( after rise). unfortunately the amp dyno is not capable of that, so clamping will remain the standard in that scenario. How does the dyno compare to a meter like the extech wattage meter? ( I have no idea, that's why I ask) That seems to be what is used by a lot of competitors as well the meter most db drag judges seem to use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyD'Amore Posted November 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 a competitor in a power limited class doesn't care what power the amp makes @ 2 or 4 or 8 ohms. all that matters is how much power they make in the car at x impedance ( after rise). unfortunately the amp dyno is not capable of that, so clamping will remain the standard in that scenario. How does the dyno compare to a meter like the extech wattage meter? ( I have no idea, that's why I ask) That seems to be what is used by a lot of competitors as well the meter most db drag judges seem to use There is now a tool for you sir. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyD'Amore Posted November 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 If the topic of why clamping isn't accurate still isn't clear, check out Video 6 of the D'Amore Engineering University series here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamHT Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 a competitor in a power limited class doesn't care what power the amp makes @ 2 or 4 or 8 ohms. all that matters is how much power they make in the car at x impedance ( after rise) Sorry, but this statement really annoys me. You say a competitor doesn't care what an amp does at 2, 4, or 8 ohms...but what it would do at X where X is the impedance after rise. You mean...like if it at a given frequency it rises to 2 ohms? 4 ohms? 8ohms? So you just contradict yourself. Let alone to assume people won't care what an amp does at 1 ohm is just so naive. How many competitors wire down to FRACTIONS of an ohm to get the power and juice out? 2 Quote Tell me...does this smell like chloroform to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testtones Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 like I said IN A POWER LIMITED CLASS... where clamping is used.... The amps output at 1 ohm means nothing....what matters is making the 2000 or 4000 watts after rise. what the rise is really doesn't matter either as far as power is concerned, just that you make the 2000 or 4000 watts. Tony, do you have a comparison to a meter like the Extech I had asked about? could make a video of clamping an amp with an extech wattage clamp and the amp dyno at the same time for comparison. I have no idea the results, that's why I would like to see something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyD'Amore Posted December 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Untill you make a cost effective way to "clamp" power. I guess your going to have to hear about people clamping it the cost effective (poor people) way. Done. http://damoreengineering.com/amm-1.html 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afficionado Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Untill you make a cost effective way to "clamp" power. I guess your going to have to hear about people clamping it the cost effective (poor people) way. Done. http://damoreengineering.com/amm-1.html lmao, you're a BAMF. Quote If you have any questions relating to nutrition, lifting, or health in general, feel free to give me a PM and I will give you straight forward advice with no BS involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyblack76 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Tony, ftcsmfdlakw! Quote SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagofan Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Does the amp dyno accurretly test the Brazilian amps as well? I have been hearing debates between whether it does or doesn't. I am currently looking at a Taramps HD8000 & few believe it's capable of producing claimed power by the cost. I have very little knowledge of all the differences between full bridged (Korean) & half bridged (Brazilian). If possible, could someone do a amp dyno test to either prove or disprove the dyno & amps (HD8K) ability or inability? Quote 99 Suburban 2wd LS w/5.7L Alt/wire-Singer 275a w/single 4/0 power & ground Batts-D3400 (front) & 4 XP3000's (rear) HU--Pioneer 80prs Front stage-Morel CAT378/PRV 8", amps-(2) PPI P600.2's Subs & amplification still to be decided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyD'Amore Posted January 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Does the amp dyno accurretly test the Brazilian amps as well? I have been hearing debates between whether it does or doesn't. I am currently looking at a Taramps HD8000 & few believe it's capable of producing claimed power by the cost. I have very little knowledge of all the differences between full bridged (Korean) & half bridged (Brazilian). If possible, could someone do a amp dyno test to either prove or disprove the dyno & amps (HD8K) ability or inability? The Amp Dyno doesn't care one way or the other. It will measure the true power coming into it regardless where it is coming from. You could connect it to a wall socket if you wanted to dyno your house. Edited January 18, 2014 by TonyD'Amore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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