Kyblack76 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) No worries. I dont think anyone called out anyones intelligence. But,... the arguing, is WAY off putting. Fact is, most are here to see what he has to say. Not what any of you think, know, or have to say. And, i have much respect for a good deal posting on this thread. Fact is, they have done if for a good long time, and have been nutty successful at it. SO....... can we leave it at that? EDIT this was to you SRP, of which i respect, and then HT beat me, again, another one, of which i have respect. Edited September 18, 2013 by KyLar96 1 Quote SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I guess it all depends on which tone of voice you choose to read each others comments. Try using bobcat golwaiths voice or sloth from Goonies. Quote Rest in peace, walled 87 accord build log 03' Corolla build with AA Mayhem inside. My super random youtube channel and terrible camera work. Wiring comparison by CaptainzPlanetz Wire and fuse guide by Guest SyKo13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Let's just say that you had access to two engines. One engine made 400hp and one made 500hp. The 500hp engine costs more money. There would be no point at which one could say that the 400hp engine was superior to the 500hp engine, assuming horsepower was the only metric. However, one can rationalize why the 400hp engine is a better value but that still won't make it a 500hp engine. How does that apply to this argument? 1 Quote Tony Candela - SMD Sales & Marketing Email me at [email protected] to learn about becoming an SMD Partner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyblack76 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Let's just say that you had access to two engines. One engine made 400hp and one made 500hp. The 500hp engine costs more money. There would be no point at which one could say that the 400hp engine was superior to the 500hp engine, assuming horsepower was the only metric. However, one can rationalize why the 400hp engine is a better value but that still won't make it a 500hp engine. How does that apply to this argument? Boom.. well put TC. But, if your only needing 4oohp,..(like you only need the cable in question to carry the load, you know youll have, no more). then, COST, does come into play........ Am i understanding?? Quote SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamHT Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Depends on how you're looking at it. If you're looking at strictly at amperage ability I don't see it as analogous as you can run multiple lines of CCA, not stuck between one wire of either. I think we all agree hands down, 1 wire to 1 wire OFC is best hands down. How you use the wire? I might take the 400hp engine in a 2,000 lb car over a 500hp engine in a 5,000 lb car Quote Tell me...does this smell like chloroform to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) If the 400hp motor was 1/3 the cost and we were talking about boats I would say get two and have 800hp for 2/3 the cost of having 500hp Edit. Realistically I guess its like half so buy two for the same price. But even with diminishing returns you would be ahead. Abstract analogies Edited September 18, 2013 by strangeduck Quote Rest in peace, walled 87 accord build log 03' Corolla build with AA Mayhem inside. My super random youtube channel and terrible camera work. Wiring comparison by CaptainzPlanetz Wire and fuse guide by Guest SyKo13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicks Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Wow, if there is this much arguing over a chunk of wire I can only imagine where this is going to go when Tony gets to the real topics like subs, amps, impedance, "box rise", class D. This is going to be a wild ride....... 8 Quote This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockFord_Expedition Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 in the real world none of this matters, cca is perfectly ok if u use the next size up from pure copper. Class d is more efficient, so how is this not better in the use of subwoofers. a dmm can test resistance if u cut the wire, but thats not always smart His statement was that it is cheaper, not better. That's why its used commonly for high power amplifiers because it allows manufacturers to put out a more affordable/practical product resulting in a smaller footprint, and higher profit margins for the company. If you take cost completely out of it, wouldn't you rather run your subs off of an SQ amp if you could get the same power as you get from a class D? I would. No compression of the notes when the beat is pounding continuously? Yes please. Class D is only "better" because it makes that power more affordable to more people. Take a look at the fosgate T15k. It is one bad ass, if not THE baddest amp ever made. It is a very efficient amp, it draws about 1/5 of the current per watt of RMS power than other really good amps, and it isn't a class D amp. It's a hybrid class A/B. It can put out around 17kw drawing only about 350A from the power source. That amp certainly wasn't cheap. You could easily get 17k rms cheaper, So in support of the initial claim, an amp doesn't perform better because it's class D, but it is made more affordable that way. You are sacrificing sound quality for affordability. "Better" can be interpreted in many ways. If you are a marketing director for a company and you sell class D amps, then hell yes it is better because it costs less to make and you make more money that way. The customer "benefits" by being able to afford power that they may not be able to afford if were a class A/B instead of a D. If that was true, all 4 channel amps would be class D also. 2 Quote Old School/New School RF Build March 2015 SOTM Winner How to crimp large wire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyblack76 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Wow, if there is this much arguing over a chunk of wire I can only imagine where this is going to go when Tony gets to the real topics like subs, amps, impedance, "box rise", class D. This is going to be a wild ride....... YUP! in for the impedance pewp ..... Stoked... Quote SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irpirate Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) there's more to the cca vs ofc than just how much current you can carry per dollar. sure you get more capacity from cca per dollar than ofc but for how long?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_corrosion*edit - i may be completely wrong but my guess Edited September 18, 2013 by irpirate Quote hiiiiiiii2002 4runner - buncha speakers n amps n shit (gone)1994 astro - more stuffzupdate: pretty sure all the pic links in the logs are broken lol. ma slop garb build log16 12's 4th order4runner rebuild in progressclickkk meeeee!!!! 4 18's 6th orderUBL - clickyhttp://www.youtube.com/yyj11589 lots of hater kids here. Pay no attention, they just want 89,000 watt subs for 3.50If you would have put a dc dustcap on it and called it lv your mom, they would all be in love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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