CJ18 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) If I find more time I might do it. Also to address testing 20' runs, that to me on a 3.5k is pointless. Never would I run a 3500w amp with just 1 battery in the front. I know there are people that will do it, but I am not going to test something that I would not do. I am not going to risk damaging the equipment just for the sake of a test. A true 3500w amp should be run with at least 1-2 extra batteries in the back and 1/0 wiring front to back. Edited September 22, 2013 by CJ18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ18 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) Here is a price comparison also for the wire I am using for these tests. Each wire is 52" long, but for ease of pricing I am going to go with 4' (these are considering power and ground hook ups) 1 run 1/0 cca14.83v/2987w/13.56v $18.48($2.31 per foot) $12.80($80 per 50' spool) 2 runs 1/0 cca15.13v/3175w/14.11v $36.96($2.31 per foot) $25.60($80 per 50' spool) 1 run 1/0 ofc14.95v/3131w/14.02v $29.12($3.64 per foot) $27.52($172 per 50' spool) 1 run 2/0 ofc14.91v/3274w/14.16v $37.12($4.65 per foot) $36($225 per 50' spool) The single run of 2/0 is the most expensive option, just beating out the dual runs of CCA by $0.18, but it also yielded the best result. Now to the hot topic. 1 run of OFC vs dual runs of CCA. The dual runs of CCA cost $7.84 more than the single run of OFC and yielded only 44w more but at .09v higher than the single run of OFC. Price in red is the wire price per foot. Price in blue is the price if a full spool is bought. If a full spool is purchased, the CCA slightly edges out the OFC, but now you also have to take into consideration that you will need 2 more lugs, AND a set of dual inputs($30). Now that you are having to purchase dual inputs, that make the dual runs of CCA MUCH more expensive than the single run of OFC. So what really is the best option? In my personal opinion, the OFC is the better option. Less runs, less work, and less money overall. Edited September 22, 2013 by CJ18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayhuh? Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 ^^^ When you finally find time to sleep lol Quote Blown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ18 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yeah sleep isnt on the top of my to do list right now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 If I find more time I might do it. Also to address testing 20' runs, that to me on a 3.5k is pointless. Never would I run a 3500w amp with just 1 battery in the front. I know there are dumbasses that will do it, but I am not going to test something that I would not do. I am not going to risk damaging the equipment just for the sake of a test. A true 3500w amp should be run with at least 1-2 extra batteries in the back and 1/0 wiring front to back. I guess this guy right here is a dumbass then, silveradogoesbang on here, I did the install has a crescendo 3500 off just HO alt and full length run of power from the alt to amp, no voltage drop oh and he runs it at .7 ohm daily. Quote TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyD'Amore Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Thank you for doing those tests and sharing the results 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ18 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 If I find more time I might do it. Also to address testing 20' runs, that to me on a 3.5k is pointless. Never would I run a 3500w amp with just 1 battery in the front. I know there are dumbasses that will do it, but I am not going to test something that I would not do. I am not going to risk damaging the equipment just for the sake of a test. A true 3500w amp should be run with at least 1-2 extra batteries in the back and 1/0 wiring front to back. I guess this guy right here is a dumbass then, silveradogoesbang on here, I did the install has a crescendo 3500 off just HO alt and full length run of power from the alt to amp, no voltage drop oh and he runs it at .7 ohm daily. DIdnt take the H/O alt into consideration. That does change a few things. You actually have power to supply the amp. When I typed that I was thinking more towards the stock alt and maybe an upgraded battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Before the alt he did just have stock alt and just 2 d3400s, but both are underhood 15 plus feet away from the amp. Point being you could put full spool of OFC 1/0 to that amp and not hurt it one bit for a burp test on that dyno. Quote TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ18 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Thank you for doing those tests and sharing the results Happy to do it. Could you explain 1 thing though. Why was there more voltage drop with the single run of CCA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRTC360 Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 I run my 3.5k at 1ohm with a single G34 red top up front and a 180 amp alt, 2 runs of welding wire, I believe it's CCA but some people have told me that all welding wire is OFC, so i'm not exactly sure if it's ofc or cca, but I don't drop below 12.8 around tuning, can't say the same if I try playing 15hz above tuning though lol. Quote '93 Firebird Formula V8 H/U- Kenwood eXcelon KDC-X395 Mids/Highs Amp- Hifonics ZXI80.4 Wiring-KNU RCA's, Speaker Wire, And Two Runs Of Trystar 1/0 G34 Red Top and a 180amp Ford Alternator www.youtube.com/TRTC360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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