Lexus ISF HID Upgrade (Projectors/high beams/fogs) (install video page 3)

[WastedTalent]

I want to like this, but I can't. I can't understand why anyone would give up useable light, for unusable color. All stock hids are 4300 to 5000 k, with the new led headlights being around 5400ish (and subsequently, dimmer than hid's).. 8000k is just ricerish, and a bad idea. :/ rest of the cars very nice though, and the work is, as usual, top notch

because 4300k HID's look too yellow to me. 8000k isn't to drastic. 10k and above is starting to get on the drastic side. Ricerish? NOT. If they were pink, or deep purple, (15-30,000k) i would agree. Bad idea? maybe for you, but a GOOD idea for me.....because its my prerogative. @ 8000k, they are still bright white with a HINT of purple. Before it was bright white with a hint of yellow. As for the fogs, and highs, they WERE halogen, as i explained, so they were switched out to match.

I want to like this, but I can't. I can't understand why anyone would give up useable light, for unusable color. All stock hids are 4300 to 5000 k, with the new led headlights being around 5400ish (and subsequently, dimmer than hid's).. 8000k is just ricerish, and a bad idea. :/ rest of the cars very nice though, and the work is, as usual, top notch

Agreed.

I've seen some really bad headlights on the street before. Anything with a color hue is horrible. It seems to dull out the brightness and isn't as bright as it could be. I find the pure white hid's to be the best. I drove a mini cooper which has the white hid's, stock xenon's I believe. Much brighter than aftermarket hid's on trucks or ricemobiles as they drove next to me on the highway, the mini cooper's headlights were much more noticeable on the ground as they drove past me.

the fog lights are Futurevision but the other ones are not. I ordered them online. The highs are whatever brand i could find, they had good reviews. They will rarely ever be turned on. If i do turn them on, they will match. Seems like a good set, i don't anticipate any problems. The headlights already have factory ballasts and is just a direct bulb swap. Bulbs don't generally go bad, ballasts do. So I will be ok.

as far as "anything with color is horrible", again, that is your opinion. You are entitled to it. It's my opinion that factory is horrible. They were so yellow looking, people would say "you need HID's on your Lexus"....and i am like DUHH they already are HID's. A slight color change isn't nothing to bitch about.

Was gonna edit the quote but figured better not...

I wouldn't say 8k would be ricer. I think there's a time and place for anything. Now would you want to roll around with green lights? nah. Not good. But, in MY opinion, if you had a green car (as in green leds and all), pulled up at a car show, think green hid's would work well.

As far as people complainin about the color? Really? Does everyone agree with what you do to your own ride? Of course not. You went with Brand A when you shoulda gone with Brand B. Or Brand C. Brand A sucks. Blah blah blah. Everyone's ride is just that, that person's ride. Let them do whatever the hell it is they want to. Meade wanted 8k? He got 8k. In MY opinion, looks better. The fogs match better. As far as useable light? Well, 8k is still pretty bright. It's not worthless. Not as bright as 4300k or "pure white" but compare it to what some/most of us on here run. I know I'm running stock halogens. (Long story)

My opinion, looks good. And must be someone else's opinion as well considering they contacted you for a photoshoot....ahem.

[ProMaxx316]

They look pretty damn good to me. Just wondering are you gonna continue the smoked theme later on and maybe Lamin-x the headlights or keep them clear??

[meade916]

They look pretty damn good to me. Just wondering are you gonna continue the smoked theme later on and maybe Lamin-x the headlights or keep them clear??

there is no smoke theme.

i don't plan on tinting my headlights. No need. They look great the way they are.

[White Lightning]

very nice ride

[genesis]

because 4300k HID's look too yellow to me. 8000k isn't to drastic. 10k and above is starting to get on the drastic side. Ricerish? NOT. If they were pink, or deep purple, (15-30,000k) i would agree. Bad idea? maybe for you, but a GOOD idea for me.....because its my prerogative. @ 8000k, they are still bright white with a HINT of purple. Before it was bright white with a hint of yellow. As for the fogs, and highs, they WERE halogen, as i explained, so they were switched out to match.

No, its def. Ricerish, im sorry you dont agree (ricerish: adding mods that offer NO performance gain (in this case, even a loss of some functionality), for appearance sake.). You CAN say you like em better, that's absolutely your opinion. You CANNOT argue that you didnt loose usable visability.. you did. You dont have to like that fact, but its true.

the fog lights are Futurevision but the other ones are not. I ordered them online. The highs are whatever brand i could find, they had good reviews. They will rarely ever be turned on. If i do turn them on, they will match. Seems like a good set, i don't anticipate any problems. The headlights already have factory ballasts and is just a direct bulb swap. Bulbs don't generally go bad, ballasts do. So I will be ok.

as far as "anything with color is horrible", again, that is your opinion. You are entitled to it. It's my opinion that factory is horrible. They were so yellow looking, people would say "you need HID's on your Lexus"....and i am like DUHH they already are HID's. A slight color change isn't nothing to bitch about.

All I can really say is.. you are also allowed to have your opinion (hell its your forum, you have the ultimate opinion here!), but in this case.. your opinion is based on feelings, mines based on fact.

Beyond sorry if im coming across wrong, and again, its a beautiful car, your work is amazing as always, much respect for your talent!

[genesis]

My opinion, looks good. And must be someone else's opinion as well considering they contacted you for a photoshoot....ahem.

....ahem, they contracted him before the lights, as you're well aware, so you can't rightly say that with a straight face.

Also, I certainly forgot to add- I agree the color is more pleasing to the eye. I just question the loss of utility. I take seeing pretty seriously

[meade916]

No, its def. Ricerish, im sorry you dont agree (ricerish: adding mods that offer NO performance gain (in this case, even a loss of some functionality), for appearance sake.). You CAN say you like em better, that's absolutely your opinion. You CANNOT argue that you didnt loose usable visability.. you did. You dont have to like that fact, but its true.

DEFINITELY NOT ricerish.

so going from stock 4300k to 8000k is ricerish? seriously? are you that fucking stupid? My car is about as far from rice as it gets. As far as "no performance gain"...well i did make the highs and fogs BRIGHTER so guess what, there is your performance gain. Listen, jackhole, if i had a wing that was 3 feet tall, a 6" fart can exhaust, hubcap spinners, type R seat covers, Altezza tailights and other RICER shit, that would be one thing, but a "ricer" because i installed HID's? As far as loosing light, i don't think i lost any at all. It's about the same but not yellow anymore. Did you miss the part where i said 8000k? (Maybe you thought i said 30,000k). Do you really think there is that much light lost from 4300 to 8000? Actually, if you ask me, in the week or 2 these have been on, i noticed the WHITER light helps me see better. Now what?

All I can really say is.. you are also allowed to have your opinion (hell its your forum, you have the ultimate opinion here!), but in this case.. your opinion is based on feelings, mines based on fact.

Beyond sorry if im coming across wrong, and again, its a beautiful car, your work is amazing as always, much respect for your talent!

so because you are a self claimed HID expert, what you say is a "fact"? please. I don't base what i say on "feelings". Everything i said was true. And you can shove your back handed compliment up your ass. That's a fact.

[meade916]

very nice ride

thanks!

[David]

Haha I knew that was coming...

[kandiman71874]

As the intelligent ones of us know, opinions are like ass holes and most of the time they stink. Dude just needs to move on. Its not his car, he doesnt see the lights for himself and how they react in your lenses so all in all, his opinion or "fact" as he calls it is irrelevant. As long as you are happy with the outcome Steve, Fuck the other guys "FACT"