gzo12885 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) I run 3k+ plus to my 1 Zv4 12 daily with no prob Edited October 7, 2013 by gzo12885 Quote 2000 Chevrolet Tahoe Limited (Mine)HEAD UNIT: Pioneer AVH-X5500BHSBASS DRIVER: Sundown Audio [email protected] dailySUBWOOFER: (4) Sundown Audio Zv4 18d1BOX: under constructionMID/HI DRIVER(s): JBL PX300.4, Powerbass ASA600.4, Audiopipe 6002, American Bass SQ50FRONT DECK: Pioneer TS Pro 6.5, Power Acoustic nb-1, (4) American Bass SQ4.0 KICK PANEL: Kicker KS65 components REAR DECK: Powerbass XL Pro 6.5, Pioneer TS Pro 8's, Power Acoustic nb-2, Powerbass s412 4x10, (2) Crescendo pwx 10"ELECTRICAL: Big 3, all KNU & AP OFC 0awg on 240amp Mechman Alt, Audiopipe batt meter, (2) Scorpin batt metersBATTERIES: (3) XS Power 3400's, KInetic HC1800, Kinetic HC2000MISC: Fat Mat on all doors, Old setup: (4) SA15d4's on an NS1 151.0 on TL sealed 2010 Honda Civic LX (Wife's) 142.1 TL sealed trunkHEAD UNIT: Pioneer AVH-X7500BHS with Massive Audio EQ7BASS DRIVER: (2) Powerbass ASA1500.1d's(strapped) 3240w clamped @ 10.8v lol(stock alt)SUBWOOFERS: (1) Sundown Audio Zv4 12d2BOX: Custom built by me 3ft^3 @ 35hzMID/HI DRIVER: Powerbass ASA600.4FRONT DOORS: Alpine Sps610cREAR DOORS: Alpine Sps610cELECTRICAL: All Audiopipe 0awg, Big 3, Stinger batt meter, stock 90amp alt<p>BATTERIES: (2) Kinetic HC1400's, XS Power XP950
sundownz Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 luckily recones are pre-assembled in china and readily available! Incorrect. All re-cones are built here at our shop -- and many complete Z v.4 woofers are built here as well. We use a hybrid production system where we stock a predicted quantity of Z v.4 from our factory and also stock all of the raw parts to build them as well -- if we run out of a certain configuration we build them, if someone needs a customized driver we build that too. We've probably built about 40-50% of the units sold so far here and 50-60% are factory made. Quote - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected]
sundownz Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 To answer the OP -- the Z v.4 line has been known to handle ~2x or so of it's rated power. A thermal failure is unlikely in most applications -- you would be more likely to damage the lead-wire via clipping or perhaps even damage the spider itself physically. In one of our test bench setups here (Jovanni's Golf) on a 3500D @ 0.5 ohm we saw these type of things before thermal failure. He did have a massive 3 cubic foot box for one 12" woofer, though, so a more reasonable box would largely eliminate the possibility of physical spider damage (2.25 or so seems to be pretty ideal in our testing so far). So just keep an eye on clipping and you can run a ton of power on them =) 5 Quote - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected]
CleanSierra Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) Local guy(and fellow forum member)has one on around 3K and I'm unsure of how he set his gains, but I smell coil after a couple of songs. Be careful with the gain setting and keep your nose on top of it. Don't play hard on it when you have a cold, you won't want to miss something Edited October 8, 2013 by CleanSierra Quote Im not the one you want to try to troll. Just a fyi for you.
gzo12885 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) Jacob, I was under the impression a 3ft^3 box was the correct airspace for a Zv4 12. Are you saying that a 2.25-2.5 box would be better? Edited October 8, 2013 by gzo12885 Quote 2000 Chevrolet Tahoe Limited (Mine)HEAD UNIT: Pioneer AVH-X5500BHSBASS DRIVER: Sundown Audio [email protected] dailySUBWOOFER: (4) Sundown Audio Zv4 18d1BOX: under constructionMID/HI DRIVER(s): JBL PX300.4, Powerbass ASA600.4, Audiopipe 6002, American Bass SQ50FRONT DECK: Pioneer TS Pro 6.5, Power Acoustic nb-1, (4) American Bass SQ4.0 KICK PANEL: Kicker KS65 components REAR DECK: Powerbass XL Pro 6.5, Pioneer TS Pro 8's, Power Acoustic nb-2, Powerbass s412 4x10, (2) Crescendo pwx 10"ELECTRICAL: Big 3, all KNU & AP OFC 0awg on 240amp Mechman Alt, Audiopipe batt meter, (2) Scorpin batt metersBATTERIES: (3) XS Power 3400's, KInetic HC1800, Kinetic HC2000MISC: Fat Mat on all doors, Old setup: (4) SA15d4's on an NS1 151.0 on TL sealed 2010 Honda Civic LX (Wife's) 142.1 TL sealed trunkHEAD UNIT: Pioneer AVH-X7500BHS with Massive Audio EQ7BASS DRIVER: (2) Powerbass ASA1500.1d's(strapped) 3240w clamped @ 10.8v lol(stock alt)SUBWOOFERS: (1) Sundown Audio Zv4 12d2BOX: Custom built by me 3ft^3 @ 35hzMID/HI DRIVER: Powerbass ASA600.4FRONT DOORS: Alpine Sps610cREAR DOORS: Alpine Sps610cELECTRICAL: All Audiopipe 0awg, Big 3, Stinger batt meter, stock 90amp alt<p>BATTERIES: (2) Kinetic HC1400's, XS Power XP950
sundownz Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 you would be more likely to damage the lead-wire via clipping or perhaps even damage the spider itself physically. In one of our test bench setups here (Jovanni's Golf) on a 3500D @ 0.5 ohm we saw these type of things before thermal failure. He did have a massive 3 cubic foot box for one 12" woofer) i sure wish there was a video of this There should be plenty out there floating around. Quote - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected]
CleanSierra Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Jacob, I was under the impression a 3ft^3 box was the correct airspace for a Zv4 12. Are you saying that a 2.25-2.5 box would be better? I'm sure he's referring to when you throw double the rated power on it, hence the reason for shrinking the enclosure. Quote Im not the one you want to try to troll. Just a fyi for you.
gzo12885 Posted October 8, 2013 Report Posted October 8, 2013 Im throwing 3200w+ to mine daily. So would a smaller enclosure, say 2.25 to 2.5 be better than the 3cu i have now?? Quote 2000 Chevrolet Tahoe Limited (Mine)HEAD UNIT: Pioneer AVH-X5500BHSBASS DRIVER: Sundown Audio [email protected] dailySUBWOOFER: (4) Sundown Audio Zv4 18d1BOX: under constructionMID/HI DRIVER(s): JBL PX300.4, Powerbass ASA600.4, Audiopipe 6002, American Bass SQ50FRONT DECK: Pioneer TS Pro 6.5, Power Acoustic nb-1, (4) American Bass SQ4.0 KICK PANEL: Kicker KS65 components REAR DECK: Powerbass XL Pro 6.5, Pioneer TS Pro 8's, Power Acoustic nb-2, Powerbass s412 4x10, (2) Crescendo pwx 10"ELECTRICAL: Big 3, all KNU & AP OFC 0awg on 240amp Mechman Alt, Audiopipe batt meter, (2) Scorpin batt metersBATTERIES: (3) XS Power 3400's, KInetic HC1800, Kinetic HC2000MISC: Fat Mat on all doors, Old setup: (4) SA15d4's on an NS1 151.0 on TL sealed 2010 Honda Civic LX (Wife's) 142.1 TL sealed trunkHEAD UNIT: Pioneer AVH-X7500BHS with Massive Audio EQ7BASS DRIVER: (2) Powerbass ASA1500.1d's(strapped) 3240w clamped @ 10.8v lol(stock alt)SUBWOOFERS: (1) Sundown Audio Zv4 12d2BOX: Custom built by me 3ft^3 @ 35hzMID/HI DRIVER: Powerbass ASA600.4FRONT DOORS: Alpine Sps610cREAR DOORS: Alpine Sps610cELECTRICAL: All Audiopipe 0awg, Big 3, Stinger batt meter, stock 90amp alt<p>BATTERIES: (2) Kinetic HC1400's, XS Power XP950
MoneyPitInvestR Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Posted October 10, 2013 I set my gains with the dd1, usually between track 5 setting and 7 settings. Voltage shouldn't be an option. The box is giving the subs a combined 4.8 cu. ft after all displacement. Really considering that 5500 now. Quote 2006 Impala LS Pioneer AVH-P4300dvd "Big 3" 0awg Iraggi 320a alt. XS D3400 hood Kinetik 2000 rear XS XP3000 rear 2 XS D3100 rear Knoknoise back half of car Crescendo 3500 Dual power/ground runs Toolmaker dual inputs and battery terminals 2 Sundown Zv4 12's 6.8cu. ft. gross 4.8nettuned 30hz
STEALTH808 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Posted October 10, 2013 To answer the OP -- the Z v.4 line has been known to handle ~2x or so of it's rated power. A thermal failure is unlikely in most applications -- you would be more likely to damage the lead-wire via clipping or perhaps even damage the spider itself physically. In one of our test bench setups here (Jovanni's Golf) on a 3500D @ 0.5 ohm we saw these type of things before thermal failure. He did have a massive 3 cubic foot box for one 12" woofer, though, so a more reasonable box would largely eliminate the possibility of physical spider damage (2.25 or so seems to be pretty ideal in our testing so far). So just keep an eye on clipping and you can run a ton of power on them =) dont let sprkn_ranger see this. Quote TEAM SUNDOWN HAWAIIHAWAIICARAUDIO.NET 150Db Club 160Db club in the future I see krakin as a threat
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