n8ball2013 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Everyone is tough behind a keyboard that's why if that 145 lber ever saw that fat guy it would look like a grizzly mauling a deer. Tunes change face to face Quote THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamHT Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 It's ok, he's just mad I had a hard time fitting in his mom. Most useless twats like Ben cry when their epeen is ignored and always feign objectivity when trying to appear experienced. I'm hardly offended at his joke but do have to reiterate when people have no argument or the mental skills and knowledge to debate a topic they attack the person. Too bad in every post telling us we're wrong he can't say why or provide factual information or even a counter test. Hopefully he takes his idiocy elsewhere Quote Tell me...does this smell like chloroform to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I do enjoy when tfade posts. He's straight up and if he doesn't agree he says it and then says why. One of the few people on the forums who have the capability to argue a point without sending someone into an uproar because he ays out facts without emotional attachment like a prom queen who just lost her virginity 1 Quote THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ18 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 TFade had a legitimate reason to question the test and is the reason I went back to redo it. Here is the fact to using the scope. You are relying on your eyes to visually detect clipping. I dont care how good your scope is, there is now the human error element. I used my own eyes to see where I could visually see clipping and it was higher than where the AMM1 first saw it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicks Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 so I can buy all those tools and a concrete bucket or 1 single tool? geez, tough choice. but I do see that guys point, this isn't the only tool that works. But, I will let him use the concrete bucket... I understand what he is saying as well, just giving him a hard time. Jokes aside, even if that setup worked, you would then know how many VA your amplifier can put out into a bucket of concrete. Still wouldn't tell you how many Watts your amplifier puts into your SPEAKERS say what? That's exactly what your dyno does. Uses a purely resistive load to measure power output in watts.... Last time I checked a coil of wire is an Inductor, not a resistor. I think you are confusing it with this http://www.rexresearch.com/davis/davis.htm Oh snap Tony doesn't know what bifilar winding is. rofl. it's as close as you can get to a completely resistive load with magnet wire. Well of course Ben, most everyday car audio guys know what a bifilar coil is and can just whip one up or run down to the local audio shop to get one, right...........? SMH If somebody wanted their own Dyno then I wold envision them buying some power resistors like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Ohm-100-Watts-High-Power-Ceramic-Tube-Resistor-100W-2R-/310579396094?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item484ff97dfe Sure they'll be a bit inductive but for a DIY'er its fine. Or they could step up to these which are used in the AD-1: http://www.ebay.com/itm/231032379691?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Or get an AD-1 if you're able to. Or find one locally. CJ18 has gladly taken requests to Dyno peoples amps and he doesn't insult people because they don't have "bifilar coils" in their garages..... You throwing around these obscure terms doesn't make you look more intelligent, and the constant insults to everyone around your definitely doesn't help you image either. Quote This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Exactly. He made a statement and backed it up and it opened dialog up for further work a nd experimentation. Not I'm smart you're dumb listen to me Quote THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ18 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Here is my last arguement on this and I am done with this. AMM1 for $359 on pre sale, takes all of the guess work out of this. This arguement has beeen over a dummy loaded test where both methods SHOULD agree. But when you take both methods into a vehcile, clamping is complete shit. The AMM1 will do all of the work for you AND give you TRUE WATTS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamHT Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 He's used to googling things so that's why his posts look like that. Quote Tell me...does this smell like chloroform to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROLEXrifleman Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 If i used a ceramic wire wound resistor or aluminum one as the starting load, could I use my old school accumatch to change the impedance and increase power handling with no ill effects to the testing? Quote Rolex you sicken me. Just let me finish my pie ~ Juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyD'Amore Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) so I can buy all those tools and a concrete bucket or 1 single tool? geez, tough choice. but I do see that guys point, this isn't the only tool that works. But, I will let him use the concrete bucket... I understand what he is saying as well, just giving him a hard time. Jokes aside, even if that setup worked, you would then know how many VA your amplifier can put out into a bucket of concrete. Still wouldn't tell you how many Watts your amplifier puts into your SPEAKERS say what? That's exactly what your dyno does. Uses a purely resistive load to measure power output in watts.... Last time I checked a coil of wire is an Inductor, not a resistor. I think you are confusing it with this http://www.rexresearch.com/davis/davis.htm Oh snap Tony doesn't know what bifilar winding is. rofl. it's as close as you can get to a completely resistive load with magnet wire. please.... FYI I made the power transformers in the T15kW penti-filar. Edited January 25, 2014 by TonyD'Amore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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