The reason i wait to hear facts before i judge.....or decide to burn my own city down and loot.

[STEvil]

Nobody is mentioning the angle of the shots as they traveled from entry to exit (or end point if no exit).

You cant tell shit if you just use an entry point only.

Edited August 21, 2014 by STEvil

[truthsayer]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/18/new-video-purports-to-show-the-moments-after-michael-browns-death/

Fractured orbital socket seems like something that would need immediate doctor attention.

and I didn't say no other news stations don't lie. They all do. I don't trust anything I see on the news besides sports scores

Fox News loves to lie. From editing Obama's speech to make it seem like he was choosing sides in the Ferguson mishaps, to saying democrats wanted to impeach Obama. Buncha bullshit

I posted the following in another section, and it seemed fitting to include here.

In 2013 there were 100 black men killed in various situations by law enforcement.

There were 5,000 black on black murders, but does the black community want to discuss that, or protest over their young men," no ". Because it doesn't fit the race baiting scenario, that those who make living from, or the nut bag activist.

Before anyone jumps down my throat and want's to dispute my claims. These figures were discussed in the last few days, by both Jason Riley, And Doc. Ben Carson.

ACTUALLY... There ARE LEADERS who FIGHT to END black on black violence! Just because you don't see it on the news doesn't mean its not happening...! And my church participates in the community FAITHFULLY to fight against this violence along with helping other people who are in need. And besides that, there are PLENTY of different organizations doing the samething! Don't be so ignorant

OrionStang said it best.. Its all an agenda!

And no I'm not refering to that OPPORTUNIST Al Sharpton when I make these claims!!!

Focus- I will say one thing on fox news behalf, name any other cable syndicated news agency, that allows both sides to prevent their views. A lot of people hate fox because they are one of the view who are not afraid to get your face and ask serious questions. And your starting to sound like a liberal left wing activist with selective hearing, you only here what you want to hear. It is fox who exposes these stories and lies long before anyone else. They are the ones who expose others for the editing, I'm not going to argue with you, because you sound like some of those protestors. No matter what facts come out, or the use of rationality, your only going to hear things, one sided. And if you watch Obama's speeches live, their is no need to edit his useless chatter, unless your a dem, never paints a good pic for the left.

Woods- you call me ignorant yest you did not disprove my statement. Happy for you that it may be discussed in church, or what not.

As far as leaders go, i gave you probably the two most intelligent and reasonable men there is . (Jason Riley and Doc. Ben Carson) But the majority of the black community doesnt want to listen to them, only to call them uncle tom's and race traitors. Because they don't advocate all the violence and excuses.

Like i said there is no large out cry and drawn on long lengthy protest's. Say what you will, you dont see the outrage from the black community over black on black crime,

So take your one sided views and nonsense elsewhere, That is the main problem today, people are scared to come out speak the truth about what is really going, because it will be deemed not politically correct. And believe me if there was a huge outcry and protest about the black on black crime, the media would love to jump on it, hell it would be the story of the century.

[Wood]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/18/new-video-purports-to-show-the-moments-after-michael-browns-death/

Fractured orbital socket seems like something that would need immediate doctor attention.

and I didn't say no other news stations don't lie. They all do. I don't trust anything I see on the news besides sports scores

Fox News loves to lie. From editing Obama's speech to make it seem like he was choosing sides in the Ferguson mishaps, to saying democrats wanted to impeach Obama. Buncha bullshit

I posted the following in another section, and it seemed fitting to include here.

In 2013 there were 100 black men killed in various situations by law enforcement.

There were 5,000 black on black murders, but does the black community want to discuss that, or protest over their young men," no ". Because it doesn't fit the race baiting scenario, that those who make living from, or the nut bag activist.

Before anyone jumps down my throat and want's to dispute my claims. These figures were discussed in the last few days, by both Jason Riley, And Doc. Ben Carson.

ACTUALLY... There ARE LEADERS who FIGHT to END black on black violence! Just because you don't see it on the news doesn't mean its not happening...! And my church participates in the community FAITHFULLY to fight against this violence along with helping other people who are in need. And besides that, there are PLENTY of different organizations doing the samething! Don't be so ignorant

OrionStang said it best.. Its all an agenda!

And no I'm not refering to that OPPORTUNIST Al Sharpton when I make these claims!!!

Focus- I will say one thing on fox news behalf, name any other cable syndicated news agency, that allows both sides to prevent their views. A lot of people hate fox because they are one of the view who are not afraid to get your face and ask serious questions. And your starting to sound like a liberal left wing activist with selective hearing, you only here what you want to hear. It is fox who exposes these stories and lies long before anyone else. They are the ones who expose others for the editing, I'm not going to argue with you, because you sound like some of those protestors. No matter what facts come out, or the use of rationality, your only going to hear things, one sided. And if you watch Obama's speeches live, their is no need to edit his useless chatter, unless your a dem, never paints a good pic for the left.

Woods- you call me ignorant yest you did not disprove my statement. Happy for you that it may be discussed in church, or what not.

As far as leaders go, i gave you probably the two most intelligent and reasonable men there is . (Jason Riley and Doc. Ben Carson) But the majority of the black community doesnt want to listen to them, only to call them uncle tom's and race traitors. Because they don't advocate all the violence and excuses.

Like i said there is no large out cry and drawn on long lengthy protest's. Say what you will, you dont see the outrage from the black community over black on black crime,

So take your one sided views and nonsense elsewhere, That is the main problem today, people are scared to come out speak the truth about what is really going, because it will be deemed not politically correct. And believe me if there was a huge outcry and protest about the black on black crime, the media would love to jump on it, hell it would be the story of the century.

No one said anything about talking about it in church, We put it into action!! And if you don't know the meaning of ignorance then obviously "you don't know" ... There's nothing one sided about ANYTHING I've said... Hell, I haven't even gave my word on this subject, so how am I one sided!?! If I were so ONE SIDED I wouldn't have admitted to Al Sharpton as an Opportunist... Never Did I Disagree, or Agree JR or BC, nor did I call them Uncle Toms... It's amazing how you assume a WHOLE race thinks they're Uncle Toms, how do you know If I don't agree with them... And My decision ALONE can make you Ignorant even If I were the only one to agree with them! You seriously have a problem with black people like AJ said in another post.. YOU may not know it but your DEMEANOR says it all! I just responded to your IGNORANT assumption that Black people don't rally to stop Black on Black Crime when I know FOR SURE, That I take part in my church's activities to do so! Everytime there's a situation like this you ALWAYS try to make it seem like Black people are "Animals" and whom ever deserved to die.... You are SICK and don't even know it... I will pray for you! And Just so you know, when it comes to race, I'm color blind!! So don't come at me with your corny excuse to your IGNORANT statements! I worry about whats right and whats wrong, not what any other race is doing better or worse then the next, ESP when there's bad/evil no matter the color of skin!

And you really believe the "NEWS" aka THE MEDIA will talk about people coming together LOL..... You obviously are unaware of the agenda and are a product of their vision! When have the media ever been about more positive then negatives?? I'll Wait.....

Edited August 21, 2014 by Wood

[Ahmed Johnson]

It's obvious he does. If he really grew up in an all black neighborhood, that was poor he probably got picked on. He's old as hell and claims his dad was killed by a rookie black cop. Probably the only black cop in the 40's. If all that bullshit he said was true, I kind of, sort of, understand why he doesn't like black people.

[Ahmed Johnson]

Last thing I wanna say is that all police are not bad but I hate 99% of them due to the things that I have seen during our riots, during my life

For the sake of discussion, what would you call it if someone were to say the same thing but substitute "blacks" for police?

I'll rephrase; 99% of the police that I have dealt with. I honestly do not believe that all police are bad. To answer your direct question "I would think that they were raised a certain way and stuck in their ways". I'm with Meade or whoever said that they don't hate all police and will need them. One day I may need the police again and hope that they are there to help me. Even in those situations I will not feel completely safe as I have been threatened and felt unsafe when I have called the police to help me. I have felt threatened and had guns pulled on me for traffic stops. I guess in certain situations I do not trust certain police officers and I will say that I don't have much faith at all in the justice system.

Just cause I'm thinking I will say this: I am black and I think I sort of have the thug look down. It's just the way that I look. I think I look nice and happy most of the time but I'm told that I look like a thug. IDK. I'm a pretty big guy, 6'2" 280 lbs, and a pretty solid build. I have braided hair also. Would you believe that I am in the IT field? Looks don't mean much of nothing. I am a bit geeky at times although I did grow up in the hood. I just have my own mind and strive for more. This also gives me a better understanding than most people posting here about what goes on in these neighborhoods and the mentality of the people here. This is not to say I'm an expert but some peoples opinions on this site are just for attention and for their egos. It's easy to talk about what you would do but if you were in the situation things would be different. If you grew up in a slightly different way then a lot could be different. I don't think that anyone could say what they would actually do if they were truly in the place of the people actually going through this tragedy. Tragedy meaning the shooting, violence, and the looting.

Hope this all makes sense. It's hard to type at work and when you have things on your mind. Sorry if everything's jumbled together.

Lol, you probably look like the image people have when reading my background

[Ahmed Johnson]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/18/new-video-purports-to-show-the-moments-after-michael-browns-death/

Fractured orbital socket seems like something that would need immediate doctor attention.

and I didn't say no other news stations don't lie. They all do. I don't trust anything I see on the news besides sports scores

Fox News loves to lie. From editing Obama's speech to make it seem like he was choosing sides in the Ferguson mishaps, to saying democrats wanted to impeach Obama. Buncha bullshit

I'll just say this, I remember getting into a big ass street fight and one of my boys got stabbed in the back during the fight. He was fighting all the way until the cops came and told him he was stabbed. Adrenaline ain't no joke.

[audiofanaticz]

Here is another police shooting in Ferguson Missouri only a few miles away from the other shooting.

Guy robs the gas station for 2 cans of soda, clerk called the cops.

Cops pull up and repeat several times to remove his hand from his pockets.

Guy say shot me, shot me several times, pulls out his hands.

Cops say drop the knife a couple times as the guy proceeds to walk towards the cops.

Cops unload on him.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/170228-go-eye-witness-video-shows-missouri-police-shooting-knife-wielding-robbery-suspect/

[Slinky]

Here is another police shooting in Ferguson Missouri only a few miles away from the other shooting.

Guy robs the gas station for 2 cans of soda, clerk called the cops.

Cops pull up and repeat several times to remove his hand from his pockets.

Guy say shot me, shot me several times, pulls out his hands.

Cops say drop the knife a couple times as the guy proceeds to walk towards the cops.

Cops unload on him.

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/170228-go-eye-witness-video-shows-missouri-police-shooting-knife-wielding-robbery-suspect/

This is a great video to show people exactly how NOT to act when officers have their guns drawn on you. That idiot deserves to be dead.

[OrionStang]

Theres already a whole other thread on that, Brian.

[audiofanaticz]

Is there oh well.