Soccerballzs Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Yea I'm sure the shops car played fine for the first song but how long did you listen? I run two yellow top optima batteries in the rear and one under the hood with a stock 2001 Ford alternator on a crescendo bc2000 @.5ohm After 3 songs full tilt, my voltage hits 12.7V and stays there for about a minute or so slowly climbing back up to 14.4V This is because my batteries are depleted from my alternator not being able to keep up The problem with my situation, and potentially yours, is that if I hammer on my batts and do not let them charge, I am introducing unnecessary wear and tear. I just don't give a fuck but if they were XS power batts I would want to take care of them the right way. Some guys will beat the batteries into nothing on a stock alt and just put them on a charger overnight. Well said. A strong alternator can keep up with a powerful system and you dont need a ton of batteries for backup because your batteries are emptying faster than you recharge them Also think about this: if you run your batts hard and keep playing loud when they need recharging, you start getting dirty power. Thousand of guys have h/o alternators and its not because its a cool $500 status symbol. Its necessary for proper playing. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/garage/vehicle/2438-jeep-commander/I Pioneer P99RSAmpere 38002-Ampere 125/44-6.5 inch Hertz HSK XL Mids4-8 inch JL Audio ZR Midwoofer 2-5.25 Satori Mids2-Morel Tweeters, 2 Hertz Milles 3 inch on A pillars2-Hertz Silk tweeters DC Audio Level 5/12 Skyhigh Wire Mechman 320 XS Power D3100MO Funniest Thread of the Year 2013: http://www.stevemead...dy-being-a-pos/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoeboi954 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 you can run your 2000 rms on a stock alt but if your play full volume majority of the time your battery will drain and you wont be getting full 2000 rms because your amp if fighting to get power. than you you will reach a point where it will start to effect your engine I ran 4000 rms on a stock and i killed my alt and when i was an hour away from my house lucky i had to charge my batterys every night. and i had to rely on my yellow top and xs power battery to get me home. trust me i was like you trying to put off paying about 500 for an alt. but when i got my mechman you well feel and hear the difference 4 Fi Q 12s In A Prius on 4 Crescendo BC2000D?! That's Absurd (!!!UNDER CONSTRUCTION!!!) go follow http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/190658-the-first-prius-with-4-12s/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmed Johnson Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 4 batteries could run you 1000 dollars and a H/O alt about 500. I know I'm not the smartest member here but I like to have the extra 500 to go bend blocks and get fucked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRON Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 How the hell would a stock alternator be able to constantly charge four batteries? It wont. Of course a shop is going to tell you that everyone else is wrong, it's how they snare you. Avalanche Alpine Type S comps Alpine Type S 10'' Alpine MPR-F300 Alpine MRX-M50 Mechamn 270 XS Power d3400s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanSierra Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 What kind of garbage voltage meter did he have, if any? Are your taking his word for it staying above 13.4 or did you witness it. Again, probably a shitty meter. Here is the thing kid, if he's HOLDING voltage at 13.4, there is no fucking way he's pulling 500A of current, which is needed to provide 5000 Watts of power. So read this and understand: You CANNOT maintain voltage if you are TRULY getting 5000W of power PM that stock alt and 4 batteries. So yeah, it sounded impressive but he likely had so much impedance rise that he wasn't drawing NEARLY the power you think he was. There's a difference between a perfect world(on paper 5000W) and the real world. Losses occur and you weren't experiencing 5000W dude. But what the hell do we know, right? If you don't want to buy an alt, don't. If you want to run stock charging and fry a couple of amps before you learn, its your lesson to learn. If you decide that maybe there's some good knowledge around here and that guys know a thing or two, swell. Im not the one you want to try to troll. Just a fyi for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja_v1.0 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 ya know we really don't like liars here.. cant stand them honestly.. could you provide the name of the shop so we can call and ask them personally? I take it personal when someone tells me that I'm wrong or that one of my friends is wrong (which i dont have many of) knowing good and damn well that were right.. fuck if that blew your mind then you should have gotten a demo of my car sitting at 9.8v while demoing.. That car would flex everything in your body.. who even needs batts i was sitting at 9v and the car was loud and playing just fine right? do you homie.. but we would like the name to the shop and the person you talked to Thanks, When your at the top everyone is coming for you, friends, family, haters and even those who don't know you.. my advice.. KILL EM ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 ill do you one better. IP is from omaha nebraska but is kind between lincoln and omaha. Its an RF dealer. In Phase13438 L StOmaha, NE 68137 Phone: 402-896-5825http://www.inphasecaraudio.com if its lincoln Autosounds of Lincoln4320 O StreetLincoln, NE 68510 Phone: 402-466-4400http://www.autosoundsoflincoln.com THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2loud4uboyz Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Sometimes you just can't fix people who are set in there Old ways of doing things. Really I was my self till I found SMD forum. Yes I have me a 300 amp Mechman Alternator and 8 Batterys. And still upping my electrical on my truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REH Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 This is like the 10th thread you made.. the first 9 were all repeating the same questions, asking what you should do, what you should get, etc... And now, you make one talking about the same shop you talked about before... that told you what? Oh yeah.. The same shop that has a "3k rms" amp on a 100 amp fuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosgatefan821 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 The shop that did mine years ago highly suggest a HO alt and I have nowhere near the wattage other members on here. 2007 Ford Ranger (ALL YET TO BE INSTALLED - DUE TO WORK SCHEDULES) K&N Performance Air Intake Massive Audio D2400 Mono Amplifier 2 Custom Built 8" Subwoofers in Ported Enclosure Pioneer AVH-P4400BH In Dash Double Din DVD Player (Video Bypassed) 4 - Pioneer TS-A6886R 6" X 8" 2 - SMD Heavy Duty Single ANL Fuse Blocks 2- Stinger SPP1200 Dry Cell Batteries JL AUDIO Interconnects 2/0 Gauge Big 3 ILL Customz 8 Spot Flat Lug Style Bolt Down Terminals ILL Customz 1/0 to 4 Gauge Power / Ground Reducers Factory Alternator __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ 2002 Cheverlot Monte Carlo SS - (Deceased) 2 - Rockford Fosgate Power 1501BD 1 - Rockford Fosgate Power 851x Rockford Fosgate Power 6 1/2 Components Rockford Fosgate Power 3 way 6x9 2 - JL Audio W7 13.5" Subwoofers (Sealed) Pioneer AVH-P4400BH In - Dash DVD Player Pioneer AVIC - U250 - Add-on GPS Navigation System Audio Control 6XS 4 Way Crossover / Line Driver Ohio Generator 200 Amp Alternator 3 - Stinger SPP1200 Batteries 1 - Optima D34/78 Battery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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