Jump to content
Second Skin Audio

Searched, have a pretty stupid sounding question


Recommended Posts

You can also call us anytime between 8-4 Arizona time and we can answer any of your questions: 1-800-679-8511 or email us at [email protected] Luck with your project.

Whether you are restoring a classic muscle car, building an audio system monster, or trying to give yourself a bit of silent luxury on your daily commute, we have a product or combination of products that will help you achieve your goals while saving money and save time. Look around our site, educate yourself and make the choice that is right for you.

Over built to over perform - because user error, bad batch, and faulty install are excuses that other companies use!

468x60.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

What you need to do is apply damplifier to the metal to reduce flex, then use some spray adhesive to attach closed cell foam, mass loaded vinyl, or even go buy a foam mattress cover and hack it up to the back side of your plastic panels. If you get to the point that even that doesn't work you kind of just have to learn to live with it or start using alternative methods like screws and bolts and stuff through your panels.

  • Like (+1 Rep) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

damplifier is really only meant to be used on the sheet metal and the foam products are to be used from keeping 2 surfaces from touching or to "hold" a panel in place persay.

You first need to find out the source of the noise you are trying to get rid of. If you have a system and it only rattles while thats on then turn on the system and go to the hatch area and see if you can find the rattling (might be hard in that situation but it is what it is) If it only does it while driving on a certain bad road then get someone to drive you down that road while you are in the hatch area with the music off preferably. You want to just hold your hand against whatever you think is rattling if it stops then you found the source if not try again. If you weren't able to locate the source with the panels on try with the plastic panels off, it could be the sheet metal.

Just remember that nothing you do can really hurt (applying damplifier or foam products). There are certain situations that you cant do much to help but those are pretty uncommon. If you get to the point where you figured out there is a piece of plastic flexing causing the rattle and you cant really add foam to the issue then try the damp pro on the panel. Its not going to work like its made to but it will add some weight to the panel and hopefully lower the resonance freq of the panel.

  • Like (+1 Rep) 2

J. Jsig_253411.jpgMy CardomainFINISHED COBALT SS/SC DUAL ALTERNATOR PICS icon_nuts.gif

theres no such thing as too expensive when it comes to upgrades like that, because imo if you are gonna spend to upgrade then do it correctly rather then be a cheap ass ricer
Link to comment
Share on other sites

damplifier is really only meant to be used on the sheet metal and the foam products are to be used from keeping 2 surfaces from touching or to "hold" a panel in place persay.

You first need to find out the source of the noise you are trying to get rid of. If you have a system and it only rattles while thats on then turn on the system and go to the hatch area and see if you can find the rattling (might be hard in that situation but it is what it is) If it only does it while driving on a certain bad road then get someone to drive you down that road while you are in the hatch area with the music off preferably. You want to just hold your hand against whatever you think is rattling if it stops then you found the source if not try again. If you weren't able to locate the source with the panels on try with the plastic panels off, it could be the sheet metal.

Just remember that nothing you do can really hurt (applying damplifier or foam products). There are certain situations that you cant do much to help but those are pretty uncommon. If you get to the point where you figured out there is a piece of plastic flexing causing the rattle and you cant really add foam to the issue then try the damp pro on the panel. Its not going to work like its made to but it will add some weight to the panel and hopefully lower the resonance freq of the panel.

Yeah, I'm planning on a round of Damplifier through the back hatch and all four doors, can't hurt. As far as hunting down rattles in the hatch, I'll just have to seal the car up and crawl back there (easier said than done, I'm 5'11" 240 lbs, it'll be a squeeze that would make a cockroad proud.) As far as the doors, I find most of the rattle seams to be coming from around the speakers, which is probably those silly plastic 6x9 - 6.5" brackets from Scosche flexing. I'll try a line of silicone RTV to kind of glue them to the speakers/the brackets to the doors, and if that doesn't work and room allows I'll just cut a set out of 3/4" MDF and call it good.

I did find the source of two of my rattles: my wife left her plastic toll tag in my passenger front door, and my daughter had dropped a pacifier into the cupholder in the passenger rear door. Pulled those out, cranked it up, no more weird rattles only at certain freqs. SMDH.

  • Like (+1 Rep) 2

2015 Toyota Tacoma Build Thread

2007 Mazda 3; 5000K HID's, Kenwood Excelon KDC-X997, Infinity Reference 6.5 comps in front and coaxials in the rear doors, JL 320.4 four channel, Rab Designs built ported enclosure with an SA12, Kenwood monoblock, Redline Leater shift boot/e-brake boot/center console cover, JBR short shifter/shifter bushings/rear motor mount.

Build Thread

 

1996 Mazda Miata: Kenwood Excelon HU, Alpine speaker in the doors, Clearwater (miata specific) headrest speakers. 

 

1994 Mazda Protege: Kenwood Excelon HU, Infinity Reference 2 ways all around, 2x RF Punch 10's in ported boxes. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I believe it is a never-ending quest! My F-150 had 0 rattles when I first installed my 12. Nothing with the system has changed other than the sub loosening up and now it rattles and flexes when the wind blows!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I put deadener on the inside of all interior panels and then reinstalled them. Whether it did much or not I really don't know. I do not have many rattles to be honest but I am also not loud, 2 sub setup only.

"I'm not loud. I only have 6k and 2 15" sp4s." Someone is being a little moddest lol

fuckin this LOL

Lulz, where have I been, missed this. Well for me it seems loud but it's not as loud as others on here. Just got back from a comp from Sunday and damn....I go back to I am not loud, LOL!!!! Some stupid loud vehicles for sure

and honestly for what mine is I think it's fucking loud. well it at least sounds good as hell. IMO it would be plenty for a daily system, listening to music etc.etc. Demo'ing at a comp and yea it could be louder but for music on the daily it is nice!@

  • Like (+1 Rep) 1

2007 Chevy Tahoe (SOLD)

12 ~ FI Audio X series 10" w/BP option

2 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @0.67

3 ~ DC Audio 5.0K @1.0 

2 ~ PPI 3 way sets (not installed yet)

1 ~ RF T400-4, 1 ~ RF T600-2, 1 ~ RF T600-4

4 ~ CT Sounds 5.25" Strato comps  (rear fill only)

1 ~ XS Power D4800

1 ~ XS Power D3400

8 ~ XS Power XP3000

160 stock alt, Mechman 370 Elite, 185 DC Power

320+ Sq. Ft. Sound Deadener

Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/knfjdkghjudfhsgkjdhf/videos?sort=dd&view=0&shelf_id=0

Link to comment
Share on other sites

second skin themselves answered, nuff said ;)

but really I just put that stuff anywhere there's rattles, be it the metal behind my door or rear deck, or just plastic pretty pieces. brand new car had a plastic trim panel (around seat belt, directly behind driver head) that would buzz like a bee hive on the highway, no bass.... couple thin strips of damp pro and made sure all screws were tight, no rattle for 6 months and counting

  • Like (+1 Rep) 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I know you said it was the toll tag and stuff but thing to remember that saved me a lot of money and time if you do anymore installs in the future.

Sound deadner = add mass

closed cell foam = quells rattles

20%-50% coverage of deadner should do you, I would use more like 20-30% depending on location like inner door skin, cover it in closed cell foam to cut down the rattles.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

I know you said it was the toll tag and stuff but thing to remember that saved me a lot of money and time if you do anymore installs in the future.

Sound deadner = add mass

closed cell foam = quells rattles

20%-50% coverage of deadner should do you, I would use more like 20-30% depending on location like inner door skin, cover it in closed cell foam to cut down the rattles.

NO, that is not what a Sound deadener is supposed to do, it's supposed to provide some structural strength to the panel and absorb vibrations instead of lowering the resonant frequency.

Thinking is the root of all problems...

You ALWAYS get what you pay for.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...