A question for people who carry guns on them

[Ahmed Johnson]

Yeah, after thinking about it, the first one I would let go. I would probably try and fight him though. Second for sure though, I'm shooting.

[Afficionado]

First scenario, definitely would not fire.

second scenario, it would be kinda hard to know if he was going for my gun unless he managed to get his hand on it. If someone is going for my gun, I would definitely pull the trigger on them...but over a few dollars, no way. A life is worth way more than a few dollars.

[Miguels]

Question #1

If you and your pops own a family business (like the corner store)...... and someone 2 feet taller and 200lbs heavier than your father grabs something off the counter, grabs his shirt before tossing him violently into the shelves on his way out the door (with stolen product)....and you are packing. What are you going to do about it? Does he make it out the door? Or do you feel that is a simple "shoplift" and let it go?

Question #2

You are not a cop. Just a regular person sitting in traffic. You are packing. Someone walks up to your window, punches you in the face and tries to take your gun. Does he live to see another day or do you just let him have your gun?

the only reason i am asking this is because i know most of you guys have guns capable of killing a deer from 600 yards away with bullets that can travel through 10 houses before it slows down...just to protect yourself. Super proud gun owners. Ready to fuck up anyone who tries to bring you or your family harm. How would you react to question #1 and #2?

#1 I would consider it shoplifting andtry to whoop his ass or at least try to when he shoved my dad.

#2 Dude would be shot

What about you Meade?

he would shove him in the port and give him full tilt

[yurvalentine]

#1-This is a tough one. I don't know what the legal issues would be by shooting the guy. Unless he's armed, then no question he's taking a couple.

#2-Definitely shoot to kill. Legitimate self defense. The issue you might run into here though, is some states have some retarded laws when it comes to carrying or

transporting a gun in a motor vehicle.

I don't carry, but know enough to answer.

One of the few things I dig about Utah is our open carry laws, allows you to keep firearms in your car (just have to be two steps from firing, so empty chamber.)

[rockFord_Expedition]

#1-This is a tough one. I don't know what the legal issues would be by shooting the guy. Unless he's armed, then no question he's taking a couple.

#2-Definitely shoot to kill. Legitimate self defense. The issue you might run into here though, is some states have some retarded laws when it comes to carrying or

transporting a gun in a motor vehicle.

I don't carry, but know enough to answer.

Here in AZ you are justified in using deadly force if you can prove that you felt that yours or someone elses life was in immediate danger and there were no other options to save the life. You could PROBABLY get away with shooting the guy. The courts would take into consideration the 2 feet and 200lbs difference

[meade916]

Cops get to do what they want so why not shoot up the gangsters and wannabe thugs

cops can be DICKS for sure (not all though). But if you grab for one of their guns, it's not them "doing what they want" it's them doing what they have to do. You are one stupid motherfucker to grab anyone's gun especially someone like a cop.

[n8ball2013]

Scenario 1. At the point hes out of hte store hes no longer a threat to physical harm. You shoot him you go away. Once the contact is broken and he retreats you kinda are over a barrel. If that 20 dollar product is worth the 60 grand or so in legal fees to try to get off then have at it. It probably wont end well.

Scenario 2. If you are going for my gun in a car you are basically in my car. IF I have the ability to accelerate and Im not in park we are about to go for a serious ride. If I'm in park or boxed in and I can draw someone is getting ventilated. Its tough to say in each situation.

I say this every time it comes up. I never ever ever want to have to shoot someone and I never ever ever want to be put in the situation where I have to make that decision. I'm a much calmer and more mindful person if I'm carrying because I don't want to be int he situation where it can ever be said I escalated. i'm also hyper aware of situations going around me and have a really good sense of when shit is about to take a turn for the worst.

Its so tough to even try to interpret though because it happens so fast. One of the first things I remember someone teaching me when I started shooting matches is that you have to train at speed to get better at speed. The very first match I shot I had a target roughly 7 feet away that was one to the body and one to the head on the first target. I actually missed the head shot.

What isnt hard is to judge what happened. If anyone ever wants to see what its like to have that adrenaline flowing and how easy it is to misread something under speed and you are within a few hours of me just let me know. We will get you out for a match in the spring and you can see just how crazy the adrenaline flow is in a tense situation.

[Ahmed Johnson]

Here in Chicago, they aren't even gonna try and figure shit out, lol! True story though

[meade916]

First scenario, definitely would not fire.

second scenario, it would be kinda hard to know if he was going for my gun unless he managed to get his hand on it. If someone is going for my gun, I would definitely pull the trigger on them...but over a few dollars, no way. A life is worth way more than a few dollars.

so you gonna let someone rough up your pops while you have a gun in your hand? Dude is taking a legger MINIMUM if im at the store. Maybe not shoot his head because i wouldn't want to clean up that mess.

[Miguels]

Cops get to do what they want so why not shoot up the gangsters and wannabe thugs

cops can be DICKS for sure (not all though). But if you grab for one of their buns, it's not them "doing what they want" it's them doing what they have to do. You are one stupid motherfucker to grab anyone's gun especially someone like a cop.

for the record. i dont think he means you when he says you.. its just in general