LT.Smoke Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Some people just dislike Steve in general which makes no sense. He is the kind of guy to give you the shirt off his back to help you out type of person. So as far as the DD-1 they're hating on its succcess and the fact it's a product with Steve's name on it Quote Team MaxRetribution Si Vis Pacem Parabellum Id rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6 Bowhunting- Life Begins and Ends at Full Draw Bowhunting Team Fatal Trajectory Hunt Team http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/49335-sick96vtecaccords-t-line-build/?hl=sick96vtecaccord << Accord Build http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/68498-smokedout08impalas-tline-build/?hl=+sick96vtecaccord << Impala T-line build Rebassed.com for all your music needs 👌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke_Audio_Addict Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Because haters gonna hate. 1 Quote That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorFade Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 I know this is the SMD forum and this won't be a popular opinion, but... A scope is a better tool. And can be had cheaper. BUT... you're paying for the convenience. It's a couple wires and a light (to operate). I personally don't think a scope is any more difficult to use than a DD-1, but I suppose I'm in the minority. You hit the nail on the head though when you said, "It measures distortion... not all distortion is clipping." Think about your own statement for a sec. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguels Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) do us a favor taylor.. since you like to test things why not test a dd-1? tune your system with the DD-1 and use tl to see the numbers then tune with the oscope and put it on the meter again. see if there are any loses im not against your post by the way Edited January 3, 2015 by Miguels 1 Quote my logshttp://www.stevemead...-my-new-set-up/my blow through loghttp://www.stevemead...future-updates/ 96 ss http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/164094-96-impala-ss-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrd6 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) ^I think the results would really depend on the amp. Some amps will put out ALOT of power past 1% distortion (IIRC thats the percent the DD-1 detects) but they will still not yet be driven into clipping. Other amps will distort and clip at the same point. I would liken this to the certified and uncertified amp dyno modes. I would imagine amps that are further apart on these two modes when put on the dyno would have a much greater variation in score. Edited January 3, 2015 by mrd6 Quote My Build Log: http://www.stevemead...-sundown-power/ Team NorthWestSPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke_Audio_Addict Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) do us a favor taylor.. since you like to test things why not test a dd-1? tune your system with the DD-1 and use tl to see the numbers then tune with the oscope and put it on the meter again. see if there are any loses im not against your post by the way Come on you know the kind of testing he does, I'm sure he's done it more than once.Edit- Well guess he hasnt. Edited January 3, 2015 by Broke_Audio_Addict Quote That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorFade Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 do us a favor taylor.. since you like to test things why not test a dd-1? tune your system with the DD-1 and use tl to see the numbers then tune with the oscope and put it on the meter again. see if there are any loses im not against your post by the way I can definitely do that. In the world of competition, sometimes you have to be dead on balls clean. Other times you need a specific amount of clip. A scope lets you dial in either of those. And more importantly to me... see it under load. Not everyone needs or even wants that kind of accuracy or control though. I've set enough amps with both to know that they're close enough for 99.99999999999% of people on the planet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguels Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 i use the DD-1 and it definitely made my system better sounding. i have never used an oscope to say the same. im sure it works since its the tool that has been used for a long time and Steve even has said he don't care if we don't use the DD-1 to tune amps just use the right tools 1 Quote my logshttp://www.stevemead...-my-new-set-up/my blow through loghttp://www.stevemead...future-updates/ 96 ss http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/164094-96-impala-ss-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorFade Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 do us a favor taylor.. since you like to test things why not test a dd-1? tune your system with the DD-1 and use tl to see the numbers then tune with the oscope and put it on the meter again. see if there are any loses im not against your post by the way Come on you know the kind of testing he does, I'm sure he's done it more than once.Edit- Well guess he hasnt. Tested them head to head on the TL... no. But I've had the DD-1 and the scope side by side plenty of times. I can almost guarantee you that the scope is going to be louder though. The DD-1 is on the safe side of things compared to what I would call clean on the scope. Or... clean enough. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke_Audio_Addict Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Being on the safe side is where I'd like to be though personally. I don't compete though so getting every last watt out of an amp doesn't matter to me. 1 Quote That being said a lot of people's definition of "music" is a clipped 30 hz sine wave with some 80 IQ knuckle head grunting about committing crimes and his genitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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