ALPINE408 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 oh god home audio thats a whole different can worms lol Have you ever had your woofers blown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gckless Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 They went the same place as audiophile source files. Head unit manufacturers are only caitering to the market's demands. I like my 80PRS. Would I call it "audiophile"? Maybe, depending on the source file used. "Clipping" is the biggest forum boner now. It's like witchcraft... it automatically explains just about everything people don't understand. My build log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/200295-gckless-2011-chevrolet-impala/ High resolution photos: Gilbert Kless Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump4life Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 i know its been done before in analog before all the fancy DSP, i guess i was using misleading words. but im saying in this modern day, why wouldnt you use a DSP, its easier, probably cheaper, less space, less time, easy to tune. much easier and can change on the fly Buyer/Seller Feedback Thread: http://www.stevemead...5015-bump4life/ MB C220 153 Trunk Car Build Log: http://www.stevemead...d/#entry1840136 MB C280 Ipad Dash SQ Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194484-bump4lifes-new-benz-tony-c-relay-kit-pictures-ce-electric-audison-front-stage-installed/ My SPL Log: http://www.stevemead...__fromsearch__1 BMW M340 xDrive Stock, for now. Corner Load 10" maybe soon. But does 10s in the 1/4... Best Scores out of a trunk 153.0 sealed legal full tilt clamped 5524 @ 42 hz 154+ windows down, 155+ kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPINE408 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 it is not cheaper it takes up more space it is not easy to tune (correctly) yes you can change it on fly in some cases some DSP require a laptop i don't call that on the fly or simple tunning and what if i told you ananlog done right will almost ALLWAYS sound better then a DSP? are instruments digital or analog? what is SQ? the reproduction of LIVE ANALOG music just saying DSP just made people lazy but i cant say to much on that every single car i have has a DSP in it im up to 3 i will admit i am lacking the skills to do an SQ analog build i need the crutch of a DSP Have you ever had your woofers blown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPINE408 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 They went the same place as audiophile source files. Head unit manufacturers are only caitering to the market's demands. I like my 80PRS. Would I call it "audiophile"? Maybe, depending on the source file used. For the average user the 80PRS is a great unit the signal output on the unit is not that great if you have a DSP or are serious about SQ the 80PRS is never used the only place an 80PRS is used in SQ comps is in stock class where you can not use a DSP so its kind of a cheater deck for stock class any other class you will not see the deck used thats far from "audiophile" Have you ever had your woofers blown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will77530 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 why alpine have to come in and hurt feeling lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPINE408 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 not trying to... i am trying to be nice and not so blunt..... me being here is also yours and kimos fault lol from the discussion we had at your new dwelling Have you ever had your woofers blown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will77530 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 i like facts being dropped you know this do work sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krakin Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 and what if i told you ananlog done right will almost ALLWAYS sound better then a DSP? are instruments digital or analog? what is SQ? the reproduction of LIVE ANALOG music just saying DSP just made people lazy but i cant say to much on that every single car i have has a DSP in it im up to 3 i will admit i am lacking the skills to do an SQ analog build i need the crutch of a DSP There are so many conflicting opinions on DSPs throughout the audio society. For example you can take THX certified theaters (to my current knowledge on their requirements). For your certification you must use a Linkwitz-Riley crossover with a -24dB/octave slope at the crossover points. However one of the men who helped create it (Linktwitz) recommends use of active crossovers instead of analog. Stating: "While the active-network approach may be costly and only applicable to top performance loudspeaker systems, it can result in a system with improved dispersion characteristics and this a very firm stereo image. On appropriate program material it will not only give a smooth lateral spread of the image but also a noticeable enhancement of depth perspective." This was also a work done as long ago as 1976. The time between then and now with the advancement of digital electronics "may" have greatly increased reproduction and the uses of active crossovers. His work can be found here, testing both analog and digital and a section on burst testing. http://www.linkwitzlab.com/JAES/jaes_papers76.htm Krakin's Home Dipole Project http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/186153-krakins-dipole-project-new-reciever-in-rockford-science/#entry2772370 Krakin, are you some sort of mad scientist? I would have replied earlier, but I was measuring the output of my amp with a yardstick . . . What you hear is not the air pressure variation in itself but what has drawn your attention in the two streams of superimposed air pressure variations at your eardrums An acoustic event has dimensions of Time, Tone, Loudness and Space Everyone learns to render the 3-dimensional localization of sound based on the individual shape of their ears, thus no formula can achieve a definite effect for every listener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPINE408 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 i have had the awesome chance to hear a great fully analog system there is definitely a difference i preferred the analog over pretty much any DSP i have heard since this could just be personal preference. there are the ones that only like the sound of digitized music and so the conflict will allways be there it just makes sence to me that analog music would be reproduced better by an analog system just like the big tweeter debate silk vs aluminum Aluminum being metal works better being 99% of the sound tweeters reproduce is from a metal instrument VS. Silk is softer and still reproduces good metal sound im still out on this one i use to hate metal tweeters before i knew how to tune them now i really like them better then silk? im still on the fence Have you ever had your woofers blown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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