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The more I compete the more I know  that SQ is fixed to the max.  If you dont run the nutthugger brands you will not do well.  If you compete in all formats you will do good.  When will it stop?  MECA is the worse.

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It won't. Because there is still too much personal judgement within it. 

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I last competed in 94. There will always be issues at certain shows, which is why I stopped.

I believe this is one of the reasons SPL split off as a separate comp and is much more popular on it's own. Hard to refute the cold hard facts of the meter. Even though there are those that may try.

 

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I can see it being like giving the "smart kid " a  A with out even reading the home work.  But id hope the judges would use their ears, not their eyes. But, like home boy said above me, I'll bet it happens, and probably frequently.  

"You run (insert high priced brand here) gear?,.. welp, sounds great to me!!"

 

 Wonder if Randel has ran into this ever? Would love to hear what he has to say. @white lightening

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Almost got it Kyle.  Lol

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5 minutes ago, WalledSonic said:

@White Lightning

Almost got it Kyle.  Lol

well fuck.... lol... thanks mate....  

would like to hear what he has to say,... im sure hes seen some "weirdness" in all the years hes been in the lanes. 

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1 hour ago, jk13 said:

Hard to refute the cold hard facts of the meter

 

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7 hours ago, Kyblack76 said:

I can see it being like giving the "smart kid " a  A with out even reading the home work.  But id hope the judges would use their ears, not their eyes. But, like home boy said above me, I'll bet it happens, and probably frequently.  

"You run (insert high priced brand here) gear?,.. welp, sounds great to me!!

There is absolutely some of that, or if a car was in a magazine for an impressive looking install or an unusually high SPL number, it would get bonus points in the 'judged' categories simply for being famous. Even if it sounded just OK or was a pretty bad hack job. However the worst I ran into and heard stories about was the 'homers'. Most shows were sponsored by or even held in the parking lot of local shops. Funny enough customer cars usually placed much higher at their own shows...with employee judges...even those that were dozens of points behind at a neutral show. Stories of being able to make adjustments mid-run (against the rules then) and denying someone else the same treatment, etc.

While we're waiting for stories from a more famous competitor here's mine: I ran 7 comps that year in WI, MN, and Canada. After six I was sitting with 4 firsts, a second (first show of the season, unfinished trunk, fine by me) and a lower place (5th?) due to a popped cap in my passive crossover network, effectively shutting off one of my tweeters. One of the first places was a regional triple points show with national-level judges. Had two judges comment that they hoped to see my car at Nationals as it had one of the best soundstages they'd heard that year and had the install to back it up. I was a handful of points short, and doubtful I could afford to make the drive from WI to Dallas even if I did qualify. One of them generously offered their corpo room discount and a hospitality pass for food. I was blown away.

So the last show of the year was at a regional big-box chain store only one week later. Made no changes from the triple point show and ran through pretty early in my class. Listened to the SQ judge proclaim how bad my car was going to sound after he saw the speaker brand and placement before even getting in it. Sure enough, scored about 15 points lower than every other show in SQ. After my car was done I was walking around and watched them take a Ford Escort out of their install bay with just a sub amp screwed to a pre-fab box (rest was stock deck and four) that they had just put in and run it through the lanes. That car, and two others with basic systems I had never seen before (but had their store sticker on the windows) all placed ahead of me in both install and SQ (but not SPL), giving me 4th. I missed an invite to Nationals by 3 points (one place). Called the judge that offered me all the help and said "thanks, but this might not be worth a whole 'nother season of politics for a few shiny pieces of plastic". And let it go.

I met up with him a year later when he came into the store that had since hired me as a pro installer. Audio gave me 10 great years in the industry, I got to design and build a lot of cool things, and I'm still customizing and working in the automotive aftermarket 20+ years later. But I've never again had a desire to compete or even attend most shows. 

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11 hours ago, Kyblack76 said:

I can see it being like giving the "smart kid " a  A with out even reading the home work.  But id hope the judges would use their ears, not their eyes. But, like home boy said above me, I'll bet it happens, and probably frequently.  

"You run (insert high priced brand here) gear?,.. welp, sounds great to me!!"

 

 Wonder if Randel has ran into this ever? Would love to hear what he has to say. @white lightening

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I think that guy quit this forum. Something about his SMD garage not working. 

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