Soccerballzs Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 The more I compete the more I know that SQ is fixed to the max. If you dont run the nutthugger brands you will not do well. If you compete in all formats you will do good. When will it stop? MECA is the worse. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/garage/vehicle/2438-jeep-commander/I Pioneer P99RSAmpere 38002-Ampere 125/44-6.5 inch Hertz HSK XL Mids4-8 inch JL Audio ZR Midwoofer 2-5.25 Satori Mids2-Morel Tweeters, 2 Hertz Milles 3 inch on A pillars2-Hertz Silk tweeters DC Audio Level 5/12 Skyhigh Wire Mechman 320 XS Power D3100MO Funniest Thread of the Year 2013: http://www.stevemead...dy-being-a-pos/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n8ball2013 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 It won't. Because there is still too much personal judgement within it. THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twalker182 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 @SoccerballzsAre you saying that since SQ judging is subjective that it's not fair? 2010 Accord Sedan XS D3400R Clarion HU Sundown mids and highs Incriminator amps Incriminator Lethal Injection 12" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk13 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 I last competed in 94. There will always be issues at certain shows, which is why I stopped. I believe this is one of the reasons SPL split off as a separate comp and is much more popular on it's own. Hard to refute the cold hard facts of the meter. Even though there are those that may try. Static drops are my bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyblack76 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 I can see it being like giving the "smart kid " a A with out even reading the home work. But id hope the judges would use their ears, not their eyes. But, like home boy said above me, I'll bet it happens, and probably frequently. "You run (insert high priced brand here) gear?,.. welp, sounds great to me!!" Wonder if Randel has ran into this ever? Would love to hear what he has to say. @white lightening I don't know how to tag SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalledSonic Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 @White Lightning Almost got it Kyle. Lol Chevy Sonic Wall (4) 15's on 10k Build Log https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/209412-2015-chevy-sonicwall4-15s10klithiumlarge-case-hairpin-us-alts/ (4) Fi SP4 15's | (2) Ampere 5Ks | Active! | Arc KS600.2 & KS125.2mini | CDT Silk Domes | Silver Flute 8s | 240Ah JY | US Alts Jeep Wrangler JK (4) 8's in a 4th Order Build Log https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/209841-shadow-2016-jeep-wrangler-jk4th-order4-8sdc-35klarge-case-hairpin-us-alts/ IG @walledsonic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyblack76 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, WalledSonic said: @White Lightning Almost got it Kyle. Lol well fuck.... lol... thanks mate.... would like to hear what he has to say,... im sure hes seen some "weirdness" in all the years hes been in the lanes. SMD SUPER SELLER The Burban Build Blazer Build sold Acura trunk build sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twalker182 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 1 hour ago, jk13 said: Hard to refute the cold hard facts of the meter +1 2010 Accord Sedan XS D3400R Clarion HU Sundown mids and highs Incriminator amps Incriminator Lethal Injection 12" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk13 Posted June 1, 2017 Report Share Posted June 1, 2017 7 hours ago, Kyblack76 said: I can see it being like giving the "smart kid " a A with out even reading the home work. But id hope the judges would use their ears, not their eyes. But, like home boy said above me, I'll bet it happens, and probably frequently. "You run (insert high priced brand here) gear?,.. welp, sounds great to me!! There is absolutely some of that, or if a car was in a magazine for an impressive looking install or an unusually high SPL number, it would get bonus points in the 'judged' categories simply for being famous. Even if it sounded just OK or was a pretty bad hack job. However the worst I ran into and heard stories about was the 'homers'. Most shows were sponsored by or even held in the parking lot of local shops. Funny enough customer cars usually placed much higher at their own shows...with employee judges...even those that were dozens of points behind at a neutral show. Stories of being able to make adjustments mid-run (against the rules then) and denying someone else the same treatment, etc. While we're waiting for stories from a more famous competitor here's mine: I ran 7 comps that year in WI, MN, and Canada. After six I was sitting with 4 firsts, a second (first show of the season, unfinished trunk, fine by me) and a lower place (5th?) due to a popped cap in my passive crossover network, effectively shutting off one of my tweeters. One of the first places was a regional triple points show with national-level judges. Had two judges comment that they hoped to see my car at Nationals as it had one of the best soundstages they'd heard that year and had the install to back it up. I was a handful of points short, and doubtful I could afford to make the drive from WI to Dallas even if I did qualify. One of them generously offered their corpo room discount and a hospitality pass for food. I was blown away. So the last show of the year was at a regional big-box chain store only one week later. Made no changes from the triple point show and ran through pretty early in my class. Listened to the SQ judge proclaim how bad my car was going to sound after he saw the speaker brand and placement before even getting in it. Sure enough, scored about 15 points lower than every other show in SQ. After my car was done I was walking around and watched them take a Ford Escort out of their install bay with just a sub amp screwed to a pre-fab box (rest was stock deck and four) that they had just put in and run it through the lanes. That car, and two others with basic systems I had never seen before (but had their store sticker on the windows) all placed ahead of me in both install and SQ (but not SPL), giving me 4th. I missed an invite to Nationals by 3 points (one place). Called the judge that offered me all the help and said "thanks, but this might not be worth a whole 'nother season of politics for a few shiny pieces of plastic". And let it go. I met up with him a year later when he came into the store that had since hired me as a pro installer. Audio gave me 10 great years in the industry, I got to design and build a lot of cool things, and I'm still customizing and working in the automotive aftermarket 20+ years later. But I've never again had a desire to compete or even attend most shows. Static drops are my bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06RTCharger Posted June 2, 2017 Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 11 hours ago, Kyblack76 said: I can see it being like giving the "smart kid " a A with out even reading the home work. But id hope the judges would use their ears, not their eyes. But, like home boy said above me, I'll bet it happens, and probably frequently. "You run (insert high priced brand here) gear?,.. welp, sounds great to me!!" Wonder if Randel has ran into this ever? Would love to hear what he has to say. @white lightening I don't know how to tag I think that guy quit this forum. Something about his SMD garage not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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