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Right now I have 2 sundown X 18's on a scv 4k and have a pair of digital design cs 52 component set powered by a Rockford punch 50 watt x4. I was eventually going to upgrade to a 7500 so I need something that can keep up, any suggestions friends? Right now I have a poorly designed box for these subs and power and I can barely hear music at full tilt. Would 2 mids be best with this much power? Would a silk dome tweet handle or would I have 5lto go super tweet?  No wall btw. Subs up port back 

On 11/20/2012 at 8:54 PM, AMI CUSTOMS said:

Turned mine up today at a light, guy next to me his steering wheel started moving and he looked over at me like I was a magician lol.

On 5/9/2012 at 8:45 PM, skittlesRgood said:

fuck the plating. look at what the main metal used is. you could buy unicorn blood plated terminals but if its just covering up dog shit, whats the point

On 4/10/2013 at 12:26 PM, mrd6 said:

I'll admit, half way through sanding that fiberglass in the rain and cold while I was all itchy I was definitely starting to question why i was doing this haha

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two pro mids in each door and one horn loaded tweeter. 8" mid if you can fit it.   pro tweeters are really efficient, by running two mids you up the efficiency and get closer to the efficiency of the tweeter and avoid using resistors to balance the power. Just  a 3.3 mf cap on the tweet and you should be good using a little bit of eq to balance the overlap in frequencies.

 

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Thanks for the input, I forgot to mention this will be an active setup. Looking at getting a 4 channel for the mids in front doors and coax in back doors then a 2 channel for the tweeters. If more power is required can always get a 200x4 and just put the gain down some when tuning the back doors for rear passengers 

On 11/20/2012 at 8:54 PM, AMI CUSTOMS said:

Turned mine up today at a light, guy next to me his steering wheel started moving and he looked over at me like I was a magician lol.

On 5/9/2012 at 8:45 PM, skittlesRgood said:

fuck the plating. look at what the main metal used is. you could buy unicorn blood plated terminals but if its just covering up dog shit, whats the point

On 4/10/2013 at 12:26 PM, mrd6 said:

I'll admit, half way through sanding that fiberglass in the rain and cold while I was all itchy I was definitely starting to question why i was doing this haha

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  • (6) XP3000's in Rear
  • 1/0 SHCA & XS Power 4 runs to back
  • TORK2 kit from Tony @ CE Auto Supply
  • Pioneer DEH-80PRS
  • DD AW6.5 (2) per door
  • *Tweeter Unkown*
  • DD SS4a & C3d
  • (2) SCV4000 @ .5Ohm
  • (2) 15" Sundown Zv5
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even being active I would strongly advise a cap on your tweeter, you cant trust electronics not to hiccup and cost you your tweeters from getting a dc pop that roast them.

 

DB DRAG PSYCHLONE PRO 156.3 30 SECOND AVERAGE FO MAX AT 26HZ

LEGAL DASH DRIVER DOOR OPEN 158.0@30 HZ

MY BEST SO FAR, HOPEFULLY A 160 COME FEBUARY.

156.9@26hz  158.0@30hz

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Honestly in my experience, it will fall on where they are pointed (how close you can get them pointed to the listener). If you can get the tweeters in the A pillars or something and a couple sets of 6.5" mids or 8" per door, it should handle it just fine. I ran 2 10's  and 2 6.5's to keep up with my wall when it was 4 15's and 12kw.

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Came here to recommend going active, that alone made my system much louder.  I have (2) wool cone 8" woofers and (2) silk dome tweets PER DOOR ran active and it kept up with (4) 15s on an SCV-6000D.  But I was probably only pulling 4000W.

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Thanks for the input guys. I have another question regarding mids. I have always just mounted to stock locations. Never have I ever put pods or created any type of enclosure for them within the doors, would that be a must? I am only skeptical because of the work that would be involved in making my doors able to fit anything larger than what fits stock, as well as creating a and if not mounting a pod and still be able to use the window fully.

On 11/20/2012 at 8:54 PM, AMI CUSTOMS said:

Turned mine up today at a light, guy next to me his steering wheel started moving and he looked over at me like I was a magician lol.

On 5/9/2012 at 8:45 PM, skittlesRgood said:

fuck the plating. look at what the main metal used is. you could buy unicorn blood plated terminals but if its just covering up dog shit, whats the point

On 4/10/2013 at 12:26 PM, mrd6 said:

I'll admit, half way through sanding that fiberglass in the rain and cold while I was all itchy I was definitely starting to question why i was doing this haha

  • Soon To Be
  • '04 Ford Escape
  • US Alternator 280A Hairpin
  • D4800 Under the Hood
  • (6) XP3000's in Rear
  • 1/0 SHCA & XS Power 4 runs to back
  • TORK2 kit from Tony @ CE Auto Supply
  • Pioneer DEH-80PRS
  • DD AW6.5 (2) per door
  • *Tweeter Unkown*
  • DD SS4a & C3d
  • (2) SCV4000 @ .5Ohm
  • (2) 15" Sundown Zv5
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Will check those out. Looking at hitting a scrap yard and pulling some door panels off a car to make them from. 

On 11/20/2012 at 8:54 PM, AMI CUSTOMS said:

Turned mine up today at a light, guy next to me his steering wheel started moving and he looked over at me like I was a magician lol.

On 5/9/2012 at 8:45 PM, skittlesRgood said:

fuck the plating. look at what the main metal used is. you could buy unicorn blood plated terminals but if its just covering up dog shit, whats the point

On 4/10/2013 at 12:26 PM, mrd6 said:

I'll admit, half way through sanding that fiberglass in the rain and cold while I was all itchy I was definitely starting to question why i was doing this haha

  • Soon To Be
  • '04 Ford Escape
  • US Alternator 280A Hairpin
  • D4800 Under the Hood
  • (6) XP3000's in Rear
  • 1/0 SHCA & XS Power 4 runs to back
  • TORK2 kit from Tony @ CE Auto Supply
  • Pioneer DEH-80PRS
  • DD AW6.5 (2) per door
  • *Tweeter Unkown*
  • DD SS4a & C3d
  • (2) SCV4000 @ .5Ohm
  • (2) 15" Sundown Zv5
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