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Recommended power for a Fi SP4 15 v2 and is my elecrical up to par


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2 hours ago, Kyblack76 said:

Yup, just me, but, 500 watts, would net you zero gain, you wouldnt even know to the ear, and probably nothing, or very little on the meter. A team FI coil?? Much stronger coil than a sp4 winding. Good Hell, I'd put a wolfram or whatever 3-4k on each coil, set clean, decent enclosure, and let it wang. I've seen with my own eyes the thermal cap of those windings, (ran a pair of Ascendant Audio 12" teams myself, on a Ampere TFHE at .5, could full tilt those all day, no comp rig, just my daily driver, I doubt I was seeing 9k tho, (due to my electrical) and jesus, it's a damn fair amount , BIG TIME for burps. My boo Ray in cali consistantly clamped 8k plus to his AA teams, each, on his burp runs did 61s too on 4 drivers, legal. Insane. And he was rarely reconing. Very rarely for the abuse he put em through. 

As far as the sp4 goes, I have a bit a run time with those drivers. A fair amount you could say, and those that know some of my builds, could attest. I put everything from a dc10k on 4, to a 3800 on each, to a 6500 watt board on each. Whoa...

 

 Every option, I did do, was wired down. Ran .35 daily for about 3 months for a spell with some 3800s. And it was a bit of a struggle, as I had to play certain songs, a certain way, to keep impedance/load in check, and not have the boards shut down for low impedance. I also had solder running out of the amp cases, driving the ish out of them, for so long  <img src="> .   But, never ever had a thermal issue with the drivers. Ever. My enclosure was way big, to big when we switched up to gobs of power, and soft parts screamed and had a bad day with the 6500s, but thermally,... I couldn't break those. Hell, I sold them after about 4 and a half seasons as "working". The driver we run now, xfire xv2, I wanna say, is basically a sp4. Same coil, but higher FS and such. We have a xfire "4k" on each, at .5, at 18v. We pull 500 plus amps on music runs per board. 500 amp, on music seeing 16-17 volt, is a fair amount of voltage(power).  And we have had one single issue (slinkied a winding) and that was in the lanes, doing 2 full tilt runs, back to back. Zero break. First broken driver we have ever had. Also, I think this is the 3rd or 4th season with the basically the same drivers. We reconed a couple just before worlds 2017. 

Greg Corbin ( teammate in vegas) through GOBS of power to his sp4s. Daily. Clamped like 7k (on the term lab), or some crazy shit like that. Did 65 or some sillyness. He had a issue here and there, but for how he beat those things, it was beyond impressive how they held up. We both found, that around 5-6k CLAMPED, not paper wattage, they would peaked out, and only heat was made, meter was pegged, nothing gained, and issues would pop up. 

In the end,  I could see 2 DC 2ks working fine. I'd put one per coil, as I'm not a fan of strapping, for my own personal reason. One per coil, wired down a bit, cuz that's how I roll,.. I think youd be pretty content. Or, a nice larger board. Choice is yours man. 

Damn they can take hella power. This is still going to be my daily so that is awesome. I'm still debating on running a single power amp or two DC 2k, one per coil, but not sure if I'd run them super low impedance. What are the positives and negatives of running lower impedance compared to just running a Dual 1 ohm with two DC 2ks - each amp seeing 1 ohm? 

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My B2 iss minty and a monster amp. will be more power than the 2 DC 2ks.. if ran at .5ohm.  And for much less $$$$ LOL

 

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5 hours ago, Kyblack76 said:

Yup, just me, but, 500 watts, would net you zero gain, you wouldnt even know to the ear, and probably nothing, or very little on the meter. A team FI coil?? Much stronger coil than a sp4 winding. Good Hell, I'd put a wolfram or whatever 3-4k on each coil, set clean, decent enclosure, and let it wang. I've seen with my own eyes the thermal cap of those windings, (ran a pair of Ascendant Audio 12" teams myself, on a Ampere TFHE at .5, could full tilt those all day, no comp rig, just my daily driver, I doubt I was seeing 9k tho, (due to my electrical) and jesus, it's a damn fair amount , BIG TIME for burps. My boo Ray in cali consistantly clamped 8k plus to his AA teams, each, on his burp runs did 61s too on 4 drivers, legal. Insane. And he was rarely reconing. Very rarely for the abuse he put em through. 

As far as the sp4 goes, I have a bit a run time with those drivers. A fair amount you could say, and those that know some of my builds, could attest. I put everything from a dc10k on 4, to a 3800 on each, to a 6500 watt board on each. Whoa...

 

 Every option, I did do, was wired down. Ran .35 daily for about 3 months for a spell with some 3800s. And it was a bit of a struggle, as I had to play certain songs, a certain way, to keep impedance/load in check, and not have the boards shut down for low impedance. I also had solder running out of the amp cases, driving the ish out of them, for so long  " src="https://twemoji.maxcdn.com/2/72x72/1f615.png"> .   But, never ever had a thermal issue with the drivers. Ever. My enclosure was way big, to big when we switched up to gobs of power, and soft parts screamed and had a bad day with the 6500s, but thermally,... I couldn't break those. Hell, I sold them after about 4 and a half seasons as "working". The driver we run now, xfire xv2, I wanna say, is basically a sp4. Same coil, but higher FS and such. We have a xfire "4k" on each, at .5, at 18v. We pull 500 plus amps on music runs per board. 500 amp, on music seeing 16-17 volt, is a fair amount of voltage(power).  And we have had one single issue (slinkied a winding) and that was in the lanes, doing 2 full tilt runs, back to back. Zero break. First broken driver we have ever had. Also, I think this is the 3rd or 4th season with the basically the same drivers. We reconed a couple just before worlds 2017. 

Greg Corbin ( teammate in vegas) through GOBS of power to his sp4s. Daily. Clamped like 7k (on the term lab), or some crazy shit like that. Did 65 or some sillyness. He had a issue here and there, but for how he beat those things, it was beyond impressive how they held up. We both found, that around 5-6k CLAMPED, not paper wattage, they would peaked out, and only heat was made, meter was pegged, nothing gained, and issues would pop up. 

In the end,  I could see 2 DC 2ks working fine. I'd put one per coil, as I'm not a fan of strapping, for my own personal reason. One per coil, wired down a bit, cuz that's how I roll,.. I think youd be pretty content. Or, a nice larger board. Choice is yours man. 

Holy shit!! I'm not worried about putting this 4.5k to my team 15 at all now!! Lol I have a dd-1

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13 hours ago, DiBo said:

Holy shit!! I'm not worried about putting this 4.5k to my team 15 at all now!! Lol I have a dd-1

I'll be running a AA5K at 0.35 to each of my Teams, coming this fall ;)

Chevy Sonic Wall (4) 15's on 10k Build Log

https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/209412-2015-chevy-sonicwall4-15s10klithiumlarge-case-hairpin-us-alts/

(4) Fi SP4 15's | (2) Ampere 5Ks | Active! | Arc KS600.2 & KS125.2mini | CDT Silk Domes | Silver Flute 8s | 240Ah JY | US Alts

Jeep Wrangler JK (4) 8's in a 4th Order Build Log

https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/209841-shadow-2016-jeep-wrangler-jk4th-order4-8sdc-35klarge-case-hairpin-us-alts/

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1 hour ago, WalledSonic said:

I'll be running a AA5K at 0.35 to each of my Teams, coming this fall ;)

Good Lord man!! I actually have 2 team 15's now... With plans on another wolf soon. Been looking at 3800.1 ampere lately tho. Their customer service is insane. I straight told dude I've never ran his product and asked his thoughts on a couple things and he went far beyond good customer service imo. Jus wish they came in something other than chrome. The dark ones are hard to find

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8 hours ago, DiBo said:

Good Lord man!! I actually have 2 team 15's now... With plans on another wolf soon. Been looking at 3800.1 ampere lately tho. Their customer service is insane. I straight told dude I've never ran his product and asked his thoughts on a couple things and he went far beyond good customer service imo. Jus wish they came in something other than chrome. The dark ones are hard to find

Mine sit in my back windows so the silver helps dissipate/reflect sun heat rather than absorb.  But i like the stealth look too. 

A general rule i find works well... get more amp than you need and set gains clean as fuck. You’d rather have too much amp, set it clean, and turn it down if needed... than have not enough power and push a smaller amp into clipping. If that makes sense. 

Chevy Sonic Wall (4) 15's on 10k Build Log

https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/209412-2015-chevy-sonicwall4-15s10klithiumlarge-case-hairpin-us-alts/

(4) Fi SP4 15's | (2) Ampere 5Ks | Active! | Arc KS600.2 & KS125.2mini | CDT Silk Domes | Silver Flute 8s | 240Ah JY | US Alts

Jeep Wrangler JK (4) 8's in a 4th Order Build Log

https://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/209841-shadow-2016-jeep-wrangler-jk4th-order4-8sdc-35klarge-case-hairpin-us-alts/

IG @walledsonic

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On 8/29/2018 at 2:08 PM, Joshdashef said:

Thanks man but I'm not looking for pre-owned amps

I'd at least take a look. Keith's amp, he has up for sale, would be as nice as bought new. Keith's a great dude and takes better care of his gear than I do. And that's saying something.  And it would be a great match. And youd get it way cheaper than new... but, again all up to you 

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On 8/30/2018 at 7:56 AM, DiBo said:

Good Lord man!! I actually have 2 team 15's now... With plans on another wolf soon. Been looking at 3800.1 ampere lately tho. Their customer service is insane. I straight told dude I've never ran his product and asked his thoughts on a couple things and he went far beyond good customer service imo. Jus wish they came in something other than chrome. The dark ones are hard to find

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Andrew is a great dude. Took care of us well for a spell.  I may be the one, that started the ampere craze years ago, on this forum.

Im gonna say this. We didnt care for the V2 3800. )the black strip newer models)We had way more issues with those, than the V1's (silver strip, OG MODEL) . The v1s, where basically a sundown 3500, which, where fucking tanks. To me, something changed in the V2s. I can get into what we saw, but wont.  Andrew ASSURED us, they were identical. I will say, flat out, IMHO, THEY ARE NOT.  Not in our world. If you chose ampere, id run the 5k board. This is MY own opinion, but, the v2 3800s are not up to par, the THFE boards, i hated as well. I sold a few for Andrew in utah, and more than HALF of them popped, and or shit the bed. I didnt even like the one i had much. But, there are some out there that love theirs. So, take that how you want. 

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