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On 6/2/2019 at 7:04 PM, ehall8702 said:

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that's about the best I can come up with. that's 53 wx16hx13d outside dimensions. port is so big im actually under my desired net volume.  And triticum , I very much value your opinion and knowledge, everything I read that you have said makes sense and you back it up with facts so if you so something will work ima go for it.  also my amp puts out 1200 @2 ohms and 3k @.5 ohms so if I just have to I can wire up to 2 ohms . I don't want to not use all my amp, especially after impedance rise, ill be using only like a 1/4 of its full power.

I have 58" total width if I port either front or up, if less than 58 I can port side and use a straight port without a turn in it. 

That box looks pretty good to me.  Here is a couple things to keep in mind.  Each sub is going to take up .06 cu ft, so you should enter .24 in the "Woofer" displacement box, I assume this is going to be a 3 common wall slot port (which is what most slot port boxes are), so you will want to put a 3 in the "# of Common Port Walls" box.   Both of these things are going to change your numbers around a bit.  Aslo, its been my experience that Torres tunes you a bit on the low side, so you can probably shorten your port up and inch or two from what it says to get the tuning you want.  

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Might passive radiators be up your alley? Not a lot of people using them but they are the perfect solution for small enclosure/high power builds.

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3 hours ago, BobbyG2 said:

Might passive radiators be up your alley? Not a lot of people using them but they are the perfect solution for small enclosure/high power builds.

How are they beneficial ? I have never used them nor have I seen anyone use them. What is your idea? Like 4 powered 8s with 2 passive 15s on top?

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so I think this is my final number crunching , gonna build it and see what it does. hopefully itll perform get down. will try and post results when im done. thankx everyone for the help. just for shits and giggles I set one of the 8s in a 18" tall piece of 8" pvc pipe and was actually shocked on how it got down, these things are lil monsters.

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realized my flaw ( port hieght, for some reason I used 3" vs 1.5" subtracted from overall box height) here is edited design. got more port area out of it too

2009 Silverado 1500, 7.5" lift, 37x12.50r17s, Built Gen 4 5.3L ( 4.8l flat pistons, decked 243s, SS2 Cam, Pac 1218 springs, ported intake, 120mm TB, Long tubes, 3" duals HP tuner software tuned by me), 4l80e swapped and 4.56 gears. All done by me. stereo is Pioneer avh 600ex, all stinger rca, jp23 v1.5, skar rp150.4, and hertz hpd4. 2 SHCA 6.5 8ohm, 1 SHCA 3.5", and 1 DS18 tw120pro in each door. The 3.5 mid and 3.5" tweeters are powered by the skar rp150.4, the 6.5s are powered by the hertz bridged @4 ohms. Dual runs   of 3/0 welding cable, 300a alternator, 2 Vmax AGMs up front. current sub is a AB XR 12 ( dual 2 ohm) with bottom spider cut out in 2.25 cubes at 32hz

 

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21 minutes ago, ehall8702 said:

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realized my flaw ( port hieght, for some reason I used 3" vs 1.5" subtracted from overall box height) here is edited design. got more port area out of it too

That looks like a winner to me!!  Let us know how it sounds when you get it playing!

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Just talked to sq, they recommend 3 cubes with 48sqin port area at 32hz...guess it's back to more number crunching lol,

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4 hours ago, ehall8702 said:

Just talked to sq, they recommend 3 cubes with 48sqin port area at 32hz...guess it's back to more number crunching lol,

There is NO performance disadvantage to having more port area, it’s only drawback is it takes up more space. I would really encourage you to try the box design you had posted above. It should be great. Your actual tuning will probably come out pretty close to 32 Hz anyway since Torres tends to error a bit on the high side. 

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10 minutes ago, Triticum Agricolam said:

There is NO performance disadvantage to having more port area, it’s only drawback is it takes up more space. I would really encourage you to try the box design you had posted above. It should be great. Your actual tuning will probably come out pretty close to 32 Hz anyway since Torres tends to error a bit on the high side. 

Like I said, I trust ur opinion so fuck it that's what I'ma build... ND I was waiting on u to chime in about it lol

2009 Silverado 1500, 7.5" lift, 37x12.50r17s, Built Gen 4 5.3L ( 4.8l flat pistons, decked 243s, SS2 Cam, Pac 1218 springs, ported intake, 120mm TB, Long tubes, 3" duals HP tuner software tuned by me), 4l80e swapped and 4.56 gears. All done by me. stereo is Pioneer avh 600ex, all stinger rca, jp23 v1.5, skar rp150.4, and hertz hpd4. 2 SHCA 6.5 8ohm, 1 SHCA 3.5", and 1 DS18 tw120pro in each door. The 3.5 mid and 3.5" tweeters are powered by the skar rp150.4, the 6.5s are powered by the hertz bridged @4 ohms. Dual runs   of 3/0 welding cable, 300a alternator, 2 Vmax AGMs up front. current sub is a AB XR 12 ( dual 2 ohm) with bottom spider cut out in 2.25 cubes at 32hz

 

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On 6/5/2019 at 1:31 PM, Triticum Agricolam said:

There is NO performance disadvantage to having more port area, it’s only drawback is it takes up more space. I would really encourage you to try the box design you had posted above. It should be great. Your actual tuning will probably come out pretty close to 32 Hz anyway since Torres tends to error a bit on the high side. 

Man, built the box Tonite, got it just sitting and amp gain full as low as it gets and this setup straight gets the fuck down! That not tune on amp yet and volume under half! I cannot wait to get em broke in and dial the amp in. Will get sum pics and video tomorrow. I haven't put my rear seat in yet so box is laying on my passenger seat still but I have to take box out and rhino line it still, just wanted to see what it was gonna do. I now have full belief in ur port area calculator and will be using it for all my future enclosures! 

2009 Silverado 1500, 7.5" lift, 37x12.50r17s, Built Gen 4 5.3L ( 4.8l flat pistons, decked 243s, SS2 Cam, Pac 1218 springs, ported intake, 120mm TB, Long tubes, 3" duals HP tuner software tuned by me), 4l80e swapped and 4.56 gears. All done by me. stereo is Pioneer avh 600ex, all stinger rca, jp23 v1.5, skar rp150.4, and hertz hpd4. 2 SHCA 6.5 8ohm, 1 SHCA 3.5", and 1 DS18 tw120pro in each door. The 3.5 mid and 3.5" tweeters are powered by the skar rp150.4, the 6.5s are powered by the hertz bridged @4 ohms. Dual runs   of 3/0 welding cable, 300a alternator, 2 Vmax AGMs up front. current sub is a AB XR 12 ( dual 2 ohm) with bottom spider cut out in 2.25 cubes at 32hz

 

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