Casparado Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 So, my system is this: (In a 1998 Ford Ranger XLT ext cab) 5 1/4" Focal components run active for front stage, 50w/ speaker. 12" B2 Ref12 subwoofer in a 2ft^3 net box tuned to 32hz, 500w RMS. (soon to be 1200W RMS). ... I just built the ported box and it sounds phenomenal. The B2 used to be in a small sealed box and the mid-bass sounded amazing but the lowww lows were lacking. Now the lowwwww lows are there in quantity, but I've lost all my mid-bass. Basically above 70hz has no more oomf. Sooo... what I am thinking is I need a dedicated mid-bass speaker. I have an extra 300w mono amp laying around and I can easily fit a 6 1/2" mini-sub in my console area in a small 1ft^3 box without much hassle. What I am wondering is, will using a single 6.5 sub (firing forward with a bandpass of 70-250hz roughly) muddy up my soundstage? Do you see anything wrong with this? I really don't want to start modifying door panels.. and my center console is bare since I replaced my worn out seats with newer expedition bucket seats. It seems like it would work.. just curious if there are any pitfalls I need to watch out for. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToNasty Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 Ok I got bitched at recently for giving my opinion. But adding a sub for midbass is not the correct way. Why not have the mids play it? ***Super Sellers List***http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/25829-super-sellers-buyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casparado Posted September 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 The 5 1/4" components only play down to about 90hz before they roll off. They are AMAZING at mid range, but are lacking in the bid bass category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casparado Posted September 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 And no worries... I've read enough threads on here to know that you're blunt but just offering information. No offense will be taken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casparado Posted September 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 FWIW I spoke with a tech from Focal about these exact speakers to figure out more about the crossover points. It's the ISS-130 set. The 5 1/4" is a full range speaker and the 1" tweeter is high passed at 10k hz ! He said the set is not designed to play below 100hz, and is designed to be used in 3-way systems in cars that have stock DSP apparently. I had no idea about this when I bought them, but I've made them work for my application for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToNasty Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 This is very tough because with midbass you want a left and a right. And you're saying you want them in the center console. Is there any kick panels available for your truck? ***Super Sellers List***http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/25829-super-sellers-buyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casparado Posted September 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 On the passenger side there's plenty of room for a kick panel, but on the driver side I've got the e-brake and the clutch pedal. , so unless I want more shallow 5 1/4" speakers, that's a fatty no. Also, just to clarify, when the sub was in the sealed box I had everything crossed over at 100hz and it blended nicely. But now with the ported box it just doesn't sound right above 70hz. I gained a ton of low end but sacrificed that mid bass region. I didn't realize that was going to happen, so now I'm trying to fill it back in. Maybe if I use a mid bass that only goes from 60hz to 120hz would be the answer??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToNasty Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 What are your dsp setting? I think you can do a few things to improve midbass using what you have ***Super Sellers List***http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/25829-super-sellers-buyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casparado Posted September 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 well..... so I'm not using a DSP. I'm using individual amplifier channels with home made circuits to crossover where I need it. Head unit offers time alignment and graphic 10 band EQ functions. I guess it's actually an active/passive hybrid? Anyway the x-overs are 5k between mids/highs, 100hz mids/lows. Right now I'm working with what I've got... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToNasty Posted September 19, 2019 Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 What are the tweeters crossed at and what slope is it all set at? ***Super Sellers List***http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/25829-super-sellers-buyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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