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Warm cones, funky smell.. Need help locating the problem


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I've got 2 (dual 1 ohm) psi platform one 15's running on the CAB 22 at 1 ohm. Source is a pioneer 80prs. All in a 2004 Tahoe. The subs are brand new (not broken in) and the electrical is stock. I've already ordered a xs power d3400 and a mechman 320 amp alt, just waiting on delivery.

 

The problem is the cones warming up, the left side of the amp warming up (rca/settings side) and the slight funky smell coming from the port. This only happens when I turn it up and really send it.

 

Checked all the coils and they are exactly 1.0 ohm, made sure wiring was correct (using the diagram on 12volt website), I'm watching the clip light so I don't think its clipping. They are rated 1000 rms each and I doubt the cab is putting out a full 2000 (stock elec and rise) so they shouldn't be overpowered.

 

Would the subs being new and the stock elec cause this or where else would I look? The cones warming up makes me think clipping or overpowering but neither seem likely given the clip light and the ratings of the amp/subs.

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

EDIT: Gain is at 1/4th, no boost, subsonic 25, lpf 80, HU sub out is at 0, EQ bass is turned down -1

  • 2004 Tahoe Z71
  • Pioneer 80PRS
  • Taramps Smart 5
  • Sundown Xv3 15" (2)
  • Mechman 320a
  • XS Power D3400 (2)
  • KnuKonceptz wire and RCAs
  • Slam Panda knob (RJ45 model)
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DId not read it all.... does it shut down? the amp or anthing? No? then let it eat.  Drivers, by definition, will do nothing, but make heat. Thats how they work. Unless your amp shuts off, or, your coils get stupid hot, .... well why worry.... Turn it up. 

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1 minute ago, Kyblack76 said:

DId not read it all.... does it shut down? the amp or anthing? No? then let it eat.  Drivers, by definition, will do nothing, but make heat. Thats how they work. Unless your amp shuts off, or, your coils get stupid hot, .... well why worry.... Turn it up. 

 

No it hasn't shut down. The smell is what worries me. Afraid if I'm burning glue off the coil its only a matter of time before it unwinds and I'm out the $$$.

  • 2004 Tahoe Z71
  • Pioneer 80PRS
  • Taramps Smart 5
  • Sundown Xv3 15" (2)
  • Mechman 320a
  • XS Power D3400 (2)
  • KnuKonceptz wire and RCAs
  • Slam Panda knob (RJ45 model)
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2 minutes ago, whoopdeedoo said:

 

No it hasn't shut down. The smell is what worries me. Afraid if I'm burning glue off the coil its only a matter of time before it unwinds and I'm out the $$$.

 

 

well, then, thats the cheap shitty glue psi uses..... sorry mate

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25 minutes ago, Kyblack76 said:

 

 

well, then, thats the cheap shitty glue psi uses..... sorry mate

Maybe it is. Or maybe there is another issue causing the problem. That's what I'm trying to figure out.

  • 2004 Tahoe Z71
  • Pioneer 80PRS
  • Taramps Smart 5
  • Sundown Xv3 15" (2)
  • Mechman 320a
  • XS Power D3400 (2)
  • KnuKonceptz wire and RCAs
  • Slam Panda knob (RJ45 model)
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Update: I checked the ohm load from the speaker wires at the amp and its bouncing all over the place from 0.0 to 4.0. After much trial and error I found out that if both subs are in the box the ohms go crazy but if only one sub is in the box or both are out its stable. Apparently they are fighting each other somehow?

  • 2004 Tahoe Z71
  • Pioneer 80PRS
  • Taramps Smart 5
  • Sundown Xv3 15" (2)
  • Mechman 320a
  • XS Power D3400 (2)
  • KnuKonceptz wire and RCAs
  • Slam Panda knob (RJ45 model)
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That's called raise it's gonna go up ohms have nothing to do with it it's either the glue or distortion 

06 Charger

Pioneer double din

Pioneer 6.5 and 6×9's

Knukoncept Krystal kable rca's

0 ga knukoncept kolossus wire 

Big 3 same wire ^ 1 run 

8g karma ss speaker wire

Sundown sia 3500d at 1ohm

2 Sundown U series 12's

Duralast platinum agm H7 (Main)

Xs power d3400

Trying to find a ho alt

 

 

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If u yell the ohms will go up

06 Charger

Pioneer double din

Pioneer 6.5 and 6×9's

Knukoncept Krystal kable rca's

0 ga knukoncept kolossus wire 

Big 3 same wire ^ 1 run 

8g karma ss speaker wire

Sundown sia 3500d at 1ohm

2 Sundown U series 12's

Duralast platinum agm H7 (Main)

Xs power d3400

Trying to find a ho alt

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Never Enough Bass said:

If u yell the ohms will go up

With everything turned off, no vibration wind or noise.

 

The ohms would be stable unless both subs were in the box together. Again no power, movement or noise. Ohms stable on the DMM in all tests until both subs are in the box together and then it gets erratic. I've compared this to a friends 4 12's box and his stays stable. Something isn't right.

  • 2004 Tahoe Z71
  • Pioneer 80PRS
  • Taramps Smart 5
  • Sundown Xv3 15" (2)
  • Mechman 320a
  • XS Power D3400 (2)
  • KnuKonceptz wire and RCAs
  • Slam Panda knob (RJ45 model)
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