Gavin Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 I saw this at RF forums and since well.....im the only one that has one in his possesion besides a few stores probably, i figured id paste it here. Interesting read on how it does its power. Tony Damore Posted - 12/06/2006 : 9:36:39 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey guys thanks for the props!! Yes it is true the idea came from a defibrillator. It seemed silly to me that all these guys in the db drag lanes need to have 1/2 of their vehicle full of batteries and alternators to maintain a decent B+ voltage for a few seconds. That and the fact that the amount of total energy all those batteries contain is huge and they are only using a fraction of it during their burp. It is like taking a NASCAR car to a drag race. A vehicle that is designed to go 200mph for hours on end probably isn't the best design for a 1/4 mile burst. So when you look at the way a defibrillator is used its like burping an amp. Defibrillators don't have massive power cords that need mega amps at 220V, in fact some of them are portable and run off a very small battery. Why, because they don't need to shock someone for hours at a time, just a quick burst. They just draw a small amount of power continuously during 'charge up' and once all the energy they need is accumulated they release it all at once. With the operation of the defibrillator in mind, I tried to apply it to car audio. I set off to build a prototype which was based on (2) T1500.2 output sections, I had to liquid cool the MOSFETs because even the FETs in the T1500.2's were not big enough to handle the kind of power I wanted. By keeping them very cold they could be pushed beyond their limits. (This may be the radiator ect... part of the story that someone posted). Then I needed a way to store a bunch of energy, electrolytic caps and some of the carbon based caps that are commonly used in car audio were not even close to being capable of storing the amount of energy I needed, so I used 12 small motorcycle batteries in series to get 140+ Volts. Then I built a power supply that would convert 12VDC to 140VDC to 'charge' these batteries. I got this contraption all put together the night before the Annual Rockford Fosgate Employee Sound-Off. I didn't really how much power it would make exactly, but to try to shorten this long story it ended up putting out 15,030 Watts RMS! This is how 15k Watts became the goal for a 'real' amp. The first step towards making it a 'real' amplifier was I had to eliminate the array of batteries. I began searching high and low for something that would do it. I found a company that makes capacitors for hybrid cars and large wind turbines. These worked perfectly. The caps I ended up using are 400 Farads, and there are 180 of these in the T15kW. Then I needed an intelligent power supply that could monitor these caps and add energy to them as needed, and it had to be fast, really fast if this amp was going to play music and not just a burst. So during music these caps are charging, discharging, charging, discharging. The power supply in the T15kW can charge the caps 35,000 times per second. Of course many other things had to happen like finding MOSFETs that could handle it, a way to keep it cool without antifreeze and car radiators ect. The final product met all the goals and then some. The main idea is that with this technology the amplifier can put out more power during transients or bursts than the car it's connected to could supply. Again thanks for the props, look for hybrid technology to hit our smaller amplifiers in the near future. PS if you guys would like to see pictures of the original liquid cooled proto I'll post them. This proto was eventually dubbed the D'Fibrillator. haha -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony D'Amore Design Engineer Rockford Corporation Tony is a Great guy! I met him at MES here in Japan. Steve your name came up a few times!hehehehe Steve, If you get to talk to tony, ask him about the girl at the MES show!!!!! watch him bust out laughing! Quote www.competitionsoundz.comTeam R&RTeam MaxxsonicsTeam DC AudioTeam PowermasterTeam KinetikHooker car audio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Steve, was just checking out your build pics with the (2) T15kW's. You are a nut. Love ya man!!! Tony D'Amore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Welcome to the forum! Quote 4 15" FI Q D2's in 12 cubes tuned to 32hz 1- T1000.1bd's 3 Maxx 29 deep cycles 4 runs of 1/0 gauge -Big 3 -Trunk sealed off from the cabin Custom 15.8 dual-volt switching MLA module All in a CAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockfordAltima07 Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 It's Awsome What You Have Done. Steve Your Officially As Crazy As We Are. Welcome To The Club :wacko: Quote Juan Rodriguez Engineering Rockford Corporation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryptonitewhite Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 im in aw Quote IB3 22" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Powered By Hate Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Wow, that is sick. I wouldnt tell anyone I could outsmart about those if I owned one.. Someone would case me for a month and rob my car where I live... I would tell people "I got the idea from an alien abduction when I was 15." or "Its nuclear powered.. no big deal.." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlesman Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Thats crazy interesting!! Tony, you are a beast!! Who would have ever thought of making an amp based of of a defibrillator?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playa Named Joe Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 That's good good stuff right there. Quote 1994 Pontiac Grand Prix build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barros57 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I would really like to see the pictures! Quote My 93 chevy truck Orion HCCA 15's Build 6K HID's 2 orion HCCA 15.4 2 AP30001D's 2 optima yellowtops, 2 C&D 270fr's, all 3 tsunami 1/0, CS144 190 amp Rockford p200-2 Rockford p200-2 Rockford p300-1 Kole KX1 5500D -broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonGF Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 i would also like to see those pictures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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