wL<3bass Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 LMAO no commentI said speaker wire amps put out AC current so the the thicker the strands for speaker wire then the less resistence but for power wire then smaller strands would be better.edit: am I reading something wrong here or something? I must be b/c I' tired. Vehicle: 1997 S10 Blazer 4dr 4X4 Exterior: Rear End Bagged, Black Grill, Lifted 2" Amplifiers: Rockford Fosgate T8004 & T10001bd Batteries: 2 Stinger SPV35, Kinetik HC2400 Electrical: Big 3, DC Power 290amp Alternator w/ MLA at 15.5v Enclosure: 4.2 ft³ @ 33Hz 84sq.in. of port (20sq.in. per cube) Headunit: Eclipse CD3200 w/ 80G iPod Mids/Highs: Rockford T152s (a-pillars), Rockford T162s (doors) Subwoofers: 1 15" Fi BL Fully Loaded Wire: All 1/0g Kicker Hyperflex My YouTube Videos My Fiberglass A-Pillar Build My "Seamless" Looking Box Build My DD1508 T-Line Bandpass Build "Seamless" w/ Acrylic Windows (for '05 TrailBlazer) My Stealth 8" Fiberglass Build (for '05 TrailBlazer) My Build For A Friend's '08 Cobalt 15" BL Sealed Off From The Trunk My feedback/references... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 I said speaker wire amps put out AC current so the the thicker the strands for speaker wire then the less resistence but for power wire then smaller strands would be better. edit: am I reading something wrong here or something? I must be b/c I' tired. with a sub, the frequency will be to low to have "skin effect" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E a r t h Posted July 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Interesting stuff here guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banginAltima Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 IMO smaller more strands is better, it would be more flexible, and possibly more surface area, if they are both 1/0 I would say the thinner multistrand would have more area becuase it has more strands, seeing how electricity flows across the wire and not through it. better go back to school The skin effect is the tendency of an alternating electric current (AC) to distribute itself within a conductor so that the current density near the surface of the conductor is greater than that at its core. That is, the electric current tends to flow at the "skin" of the conductor. The skin effect causes the effective resistance of the conductor to increase with the frequency of the current. Skin effect is due to eddy currents set up by the AC current. mine is copy and pasted, but only because I wasnt 100% sure of myself. link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect Damn, i was gonna say that you know your stuff... but you had to look it up. lol A plus for the effort of looking it up. Edit: At least you did make sure you got it right. To the head of the class you go.... If you build it, db's will come... NSPL World Record Holder Trunk 0-1800 watts---147.9 with 1722 clamped watts @ 40Hz(9-20-09). Competition Only Record Holder Trunk 0-500 watts---148.1 2006 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE Currently Rebuilding.... My 150db Plus Trunk Build I do box designs. [benH] 6:24 pm: clipping doesn't really hurt subs [benH] 6:24 pm: being an idiot is what blows subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleitaly1990 Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 So the skin affect doesn't take affect on sub wire or does it? A vitrolic, megalomaniacal sadistic psychopath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wL<3bass Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 with a sub, the frequency will be to low to have "skin effect"Oh okay I read that just didn't take it into thought Vehicle: 1997 S10 Blazer 4dr 4X4 Exterior: Rear End Bagged, Black Grill, Lifted 2" Amplifiers: Rockford Fosgate T8004 & T10001bd Batteries: 2 Stinger SPV35, Kinetik HC2400 Electrical: Big 3, DC Power 290amp Alternator w/ MLA at 15.5v Enclosure: 4.2 ft³ @ 33Hz 84sq.in. of port (20sq.in. per cube) Headunit: Eclipse CD3200 w/ 80G iPod Mids/Highs: Rockford T152s (a-pillars), Rockford T162s (doors) Subwoofers: 1 15" Fi BL Fully Loaded Wire: All 1/0g Kicker Hyperflex My YouTube Videos My Fiberglass A-Pillar Build My "Seamless" Looking Box Build My DD1508 T-Line Bandpass Build "Seamless" w/ Acrylic Windows (for '05 TrailBlazer) My Stealth 8" Fiberglass Build (for '05 TrailBlazer) My Build For A Friend's '08 Cobalt 15" BL Sealed Off From The Trunk My feedback/references... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banginAltima Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 So the skin affect doesn't take affect on sub wire or does it? Yes, because amp out put is ac. But your talking maybe loosing less then a watt, you would need some pretty pricey equipment to even tell. Edit: basically you would loose more "energy/watts" from having your speaker wire too long then from the resistance of the shielding. If you build it, db's will come... NSPL World Record Holder Trunk 0-1800 watts---147.9 with 1722 clamped watts @ 40Hz(9-20-09). Competition Only Record Holder Trunk 0-500 watts---148.1 2006 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE Currently Rebuilding.... My 150db Plus Trunk Build I do box designs. [benH] 6:24 pm: clipping doesn't really hurt subs [benH] 6:24 pm: being an idiot is what blows subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Damn, i was gonna say that you know your stuff... but you had to look it up. lol A plus for the effort of looking it up. Edit: At least you did make sure you got it right. To the head of the class you go.... believe me or not, I actually knew it, but it had been sooo long since school, I had to double check it, isntead of just sayin your wrong, or nope that doesnt apply to DC current, I googled it and copy and pasted, instead making myself look dumb I doubled checked. the output of a amp is AC yes, but the frequency of the signal is low , so I dont think your losing anything, besides the speaker wires are usally not real long your not gonna lose hardly anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banginAltima Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 believe me or not, I actually knew it, but it had been sooo long since school, I had to double check it, isntead of just sayin your wrong, or nope that doesnt apply to DC current, I googled it and copy and pasted, instead making myself look dumb I doubled checked. the output of a amp is AC yes, but the frequency of the signal is low , so I dont think your losing anything, besides the speaker wires are usally not real long your not gonna lose hardly anything. Umm... yeah!!! Did you read the post I made before this one. Basically says the same as you... Tighten up David... lol If you build it, db's will come... NSPL World Record Holder Trunk 0-1800 watts---147.9 with 1722 clamped watts @ 40Hz(9-20-09). Competition Only Record Holder Trunk 0-500 watts---148.1 2006 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE Currently Rebuilding.... My 150db Plus Trunk Build I do box designs. [benH] 6:24 pm: clipping doesn't really hurt subs [benH] 6:24 pm: being an idiot is what blows subs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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