michigancapri92 Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 you can never go wrong with 4ga wire !! i only have a 400watt rms and 300watt rms amp and i still run 4ga ... never hurts and never have a problem with voltage drop or heat Quote Teamcapri.comThe TeamCapri 1992 Mercury Capri XR22012 FORD EDGE SQ BUILDOld build logMy FeedBack1992 Mercury capri XR2 Hyper LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyBoy95 Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 I have 4 gauge running to a 200rms mids highs amp, FTW! 8 gauge to sub. Quote Best Score to Date : 160.5 dB Outlaw (47Hz)[4 XM 15's & 2 Taramps Bass 12k's] BL : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/147800-chevyboy95s-4-15s-7krms-wall-1533-db-on-half-power/YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/hitemwiththeflex/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachJoshua Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Surprised no one has said ditch the cap... From what I've heard, Caps make it even harder on your electrical... If you know how it works, then it makes sense, I can't explain it in words though... Quote | S-10 | 4.5^3 ft | 33Hz | SAE-1000D @ 1 Ohm | 2 SA-12s | SPL: 143.7 Sealed | 153.4 Port Wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampN252 Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 He probably knows what they are for, which is why he has them. But I'm onboard with the wire size. I've melted and started many fires with wrong sized wiring. Quote 2012 Honda Accord Radio: Pioneer AVH-4200NEX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notorious97200 Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Ditch the caps. Seriously, they don't help your electrical system ! Just do the big3 in ...4 awg(if it's what you got). Quote black BMW X1 2.0 l 192 hp OEM head unit, Amplifiers : Audison AP 8.9 amp with integrated DSP and Ampere Audio 1200. Focal ES 100 K in front doors, and Dayton RS 180 for midbass under the front seats. 2 SSA DEMONS 10" subs, in a 2.6 ft3 ported box. SecondSkin Damplifier on front doors, and Luxury Liner Pro for the cargo area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osamio Posted November 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 (edited) Ditch the caps. Seriously, they don't help your electrical system ! Just do the big3 in ...4 awg(if it's what you got). A lot of people would agree with you, and a lot would disagree. Capacitors with no charge pull more current than the amp alone would, BUT not when they maintain a charge, like if the car is driven everyday. It's obvious in theory and in practice that having a stiffening capacitor will prevent minor electrical issues. I'm not gonna put the time for that into my girl's car just to fix headlights dimming. In my own car, caps immediately improved my bass response too. Better yet, they're cheap. Edited November 4, 2010 by osamio Quote 2009 Cobalt LT Pioneer Headunit 2x Pioneer 6 1/2 (stock amp) 2x Pioneer 1" tweeters (stock amp) 2x Pioneer 6x9 (stock amp 4x Pioneer 6 1/2 Pioneer GM-6400F Soundstream DTR 1700 R.I.P 2x Champion series PRO 12" subs 0 AWG Big 3, Stinger SP1700 battery To come: New or repaired DTR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachJoshua Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 A lot of people would agree with you, and a lot would disagree. Capacitors with no charge pull more current than the amp alone would, BUT not when they maintain a charge, like if the car is driven everyday. It's obvious in theory and in practice that having a stiffening capacitor will prevent minor electrical issues. I'm not gonna put the time for that into my girl's car just to fix headlights dimming. In my own car, caps immediately improved my bass response too. Better yet, they're cheap. I like what he said... sort of... Quote | S-10 | 4.5^3 ft | 33Hz | SAE-1000D @ 1 Ohm | 2 SA-12s | SPL: 143.7 Sealed | 153.4 Port Wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty959 Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 the longest run burnt up because it has more resistance. the shorter runs (cap to amp) can handle a lot more current because they are shorter, less resistance. no go put some proper fuses on that power wire before you burn your car down. upgrade it too. obviously 8awg isnt enough, and it hardly ever is. Keep in mind wire has the same resistance per unit length no matter what the total length is. So trying to push say, 100 amps through 8 gauge will heat up the same in each section no matter if it is 1 foot or 20 feet. (sortof) The main reason you need bigger wire for a longer length is because there will be more voltage drop. (which could cause more current draw causing more heat) Quote 2013 Subaru BRZ12" Orion HCCA on AQ 22001967 mustang restoration project: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110765-mustang-restoration-build-2011-edition/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/therusty959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osamio Posted November 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 New wiring held up. problem solved. thanks for the input. Quote 2009 Cobalt LT Pioneer Headunit 2x Pioneer 6 1/2 (stock amp) 2x Pioneer 1" tweeters (stock amp) 2x Pioneer 6x9 (stock amp 4x Pioneer 6 1/2 Pioneer GM-6400F Soundstream DTR 1700 R.I.P 2x Champion series PRO 12" subs 0 AWG Big 3, Stinger SP1700 battery To come: New or repaired DTR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittlesRgood Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Keep in mind wire has the same resistance per unit length no matter what the total length is. So trying to push say, 100 amps through 8 gauge will heat up the same in each section no matter if it is 1 foot or 20 feet. (sortof) The main reason you need bigger wire for a longer length is because there will be more voltage drop. (which could cause more current draw causing more heat) umm.... no. I think you need to go on BCAE1.com and read up on the "wire" section. what you said would be like if you lined up ten 1lbs weights and pushed them, somehow it would be as easy as pushing one of the 1lbs weights. Quote If I answered you in a well mannered, informative way, you asked a good question or had a good attitude. If I was an asshole, you asked a stupid question or you had a fucktard attitude... or I was in a bad mood. Team BassickHU: Pioneer AVIC Z110Front: Peerless SLS 6.5", Peerless HDS 4", Rainbow tweeter - running activeAmp: JL HD600/4 and DC 4 channel (bridged to midbass)Processor: JBL MS-8Subs: 2x 12" AA MayhemsAmp: DC 3kElectrical: DC power 270xp alt. 1/0 big 4. XSpower D3400 and six D680s. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/121795-29-update-the-buick-is-getting-a-rebuild/ Top career scores: DBdrag 151.7 MECA SQ 82.25My SOTM build Yeah. im pretty sure they dont warranty retarded people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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