AMI CUSTOMS Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 This was said on another forum several years ago, when I was just getting into audio, take for what it is worth and do what you want.... "Be careful using welding cable. The insulation, or rubber protective shielding , may not handle the automotive environment very well. While it is very flexible and handles the transfer of power nicely, the outer insulation can degrade and create problems. This does not happen fast. It takes years sometimes. Some of them do not handle oils very well and swell or fall apart. Others don't like heat and dry or crack. I thought welding cable would be a good idea when I built my Truck, I was wrong and took it all out to be replaced with high quality automotive grade cable after the welding cable shorted out in a really bad place. Thank goodness there was not a fire bigger than it was." This guy has been building drag cars and V8 4x4's and this was his view on it, I have seen similar things happen. TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackedout Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Where you get it and how much was it? And please say it isn't welding wire, I LOL everytime I see welding wire, if people only knew....LOL LOL Trunk Build Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4killer_ Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Oh btw the wire isnt SAE brand. SAE is a standard. Society of Automotive Engineers , just meaning that it is certified to meet the standards as true 3/0 Setup: 2010 Hyundai Elantra Factory Unit via 4 chan NVX LOC Excessive Amperage "H/O" Alt Xs D3400/ Xs XP3000 Big 3. 2 Runs of +, 2 Runs of - DD M3b and 2 12" AQ HDC4s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsuv Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 So because someone else said to not use it, you take it as the truth? And I guess he hasn't seen the environment welding leads are in on a daily basis. Ask any professional welder the kind of abuse his leads go through on a daily basis. Designing, building, and shipping boxes. Yahoo IM - kingsuv00If the listening level is too loud, please inform the driver, so he can promptly pull over, and let you out. not many cars can get me to pluggin my ears but this one.......damn. I mean the first minute is ok but that thing just really starts digging deeper and deeper in your earhole till you cant stand it no more. Seems like it does it with relative ease....16 12's on 8 amps.........gotta love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 So because someone else said to not use it, you take it as the truth? And I guess he hasn't seen the environment welding leads are in on a daily basis. Ask any professional welder the kind of abuse his leads go through on a daily basis. LOL, how hot does slag get? About 3000 degrees right? You think I am idiot....LOL WOW TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristan560 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 LOL, how hot does slag get? About 3000 degrees right? You think I am idiot....LOL WOW LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL..... Jesus christ...stop with the LOLs already... <u>99 Jimmy SLT 4WD</u> Systemless. <u>99 Grand Prix GTP</u> DC XL 12 on 1.5k tuned lowwwwww. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristan560 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I've also heard that jl makes the best subs ever. So does that mean its the truth? No. Someones opinion? Yes. <u>99 Jimmy SLT 4WD</u> Systemless. <u>99 Grand Prix GTP</u> DC XL 12 on 1.5k tuned lowwwwww. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsuv Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 LOL, how hot does slag get? About 3000 degrees right? You think I am idiot....LOL WOW I never once said you were an idiot. However, if you want to take it to a personal level, we can go there. And when would you ever need wire to be protected from that level of heat in an engine compartment? Designing, building, and shipping boxes. Yahoo IM - kingsuv00If the listening level is too loud, please inform the driver, so he can promptly pull over, and let you out. not many cars can get me to pluggin my ears but this one.......damn. I mean the first minute is ok but that thing just really starts digging deeper and deeper in your earhole till you cant stand it no more. Seems like it does it with relative ease....16 12's on 8 amps.........gotta love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamHT Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 This was said on another forum several years ago, when I was just getting into audio, take for what it is worth and do what you want.... "Be careful using welding cable. The insulation, or rubber protective shielding , may not handle the automotive environment very well. While it is very flexible and handles the transfer of power nicely, the outer insulation can degrade and create problems. This does not happen fast. It takes years sometimes. Some of them do not handle oils very well and swell or fall apart. Others don't like heat and dry or crack. I thought welding cable would be a good idea when I built my Truck, I was wrong and took it all out to be replaced with high quality automotive grade cable after the welding cable shorted out in a really bad place. Thank goodness there was not a fire bigger than it was." This guy has been building drag cars and V8 4x4's and this was his view on it, I have seen similar things happen. i was hoping this is what you were going to say! take a look at your statement....7 years ago!!! technology and applied sciences have changed, over and over again. the jacket is not the same as it used to be, with MANY welding cables doubling on the jacket. plus, as long as the wires are installed correctly to begin with you minimize a lot of potential damage with using welding cables. please show me a lot of accidents ACTUALLY occuring from this issue you speak of with welding cable? i mean, even if you use audio markets wiring, and do a shitty job installing and wiring then you STILL have an issue with breaks in the line. and to say welding cable jackets dont like heat....lol. Tell me...does this smell like chloroform to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I never once said you were an idiot. However, if you want to take it to a personal level, we can go there. And when would you ever need wire to be protected from that level of heat in an engine compartment? It just sounded to me you were going in that direction. You wouldn't need to be, am I missing your point? TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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