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    All it takes is one car to cut the corner and your both dead or at least bed bound for life. I got an uncle that's stuck ina bed for the rest of life cuz some young punk ona rocket doing 110 ona rocket hit em while he was ona peddle bike. So you could be the best rider in the world but all it takes is sum one in car to hit you. Getting ona bike is risky enough as iit is. But doing 160 ona back road is like signing a death wish. I hate to say it but somthing is bound to happen when riding like that on public streets.

    i hear ya man. you dont think about it when you do it, but after your done. your like, wtf was that you know.

  2. what mods do you have to get 160 out of a 600?

    nothing, 600 does 167 stock. i got stock gearing as well. if you change ur gearing to one down up front and two up on rear it changes ur top speed to a little lower.

    thats what the spedo says, its off a little bit from factory, would love to get a spedo healer and it will be almost dead on with speed. so its not going exact 167 but close. mine fluctuates 3-4mph from a 2009 gsxr 1000 with a speedo healer. he does 90 mine reads 93 or 94

  3. Am I missing sumthing? All your doing is driving on a curvy road. Ok your doing 160. You say cool I say retarded. Save the speed for a race track. Not on public roads and then on back country roads non the less. I'm all for bikes I own 2 myself. But 160 on a puplic street and passing cars and shit like that is what bugs me. Its kinda like the ppl that bump at stop lights giving us bass heads bad names, well flying by ppl being a dumbass on a bike is why ppl don't like bikes.

    i understand the putting others in danger. I try to keep the speed to myself on empty roads so if i crash its just me. whats the difference when a cop is flying trew city traffic or res areas doing 100mph? bc hes a cop? only live once

    see empty road, problem solved http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-AJD6xVehs

  4. Am I missing sumthing? All your doing is driving on a curvy road. Ok your doing 160. You say cool I say retarded. Save the speed for a race track. Not on public roads and then on back country roads non the less. I'm all for bikes I own 2 myself. But 160 on a puplic street and passing cars and shit like that is what bugs me. Its kinda like the ppl that bump at stop lights giving us bass heads bad names, well flying by ppl being a dumbass on a bike is why ppl don't like bikes.

    lol each is own i guess. i raced motocross for 12 years, raced pro last 3 years. raced supermoto for a year, dirt track, did some drag racing for a while, all on race tracks. guess it gets old after a while. sometimes a racetrack isnt available, so i make a country curvy road my own track. hate it or like it, im still gone do what i like.

  5. 2006 Hayabusa LE. and times ten for all above. show the responsibility and take the safety course. and I dont think you need 1300cc's, but I do think you will be unhappy with anything smaller than a 600. I always hear people wanting to start small, only to watch them drop some more cash a couple months later for something bigger.

    better to drop more cash on something fast after you have learned than to drop cash on a funeral man. lol, seems im like the safety nutt here but thats the truth. if there are any true crotch rocket riders on here that has ur crew and when it comes to next riding season and only half of the guys show back up, you tend to give pep as much advice as you can.

  6. I raced motocross for 12 years, did supermoto for about 2 years, dirt track a few races, and drag raced for a while. I'm gone just be straight forward with you man, and this is just me being nice. If you get any bike like a gsxr 600,1000 or cbr 600, 1000 and so on (crotch rocket) I would tell you no. you will most likely get killed on it in a few months not bc you cant ride, anyone can ride eventually but having skills and experiance is another story. I've had a few close calls myself and if i didnt have the background i have i would be dead and thats no joke, ive seen some of my buddies go threw some similar situations and not come out so lucky. nothing that you would think is to hard like stopping fast in a split second. well allot of times you dont stop like you think, and if you dont know how to stop properly it can get bad. bikes go fast, I know thats why you want one i mean we all know that, same goes with me. you will eventually get to the point of wanting to top it out, cutting threw traffic, speeding on busy roads, and trust me you will, most deff if you have a crotch rocket.

    if you want a bike, get something thats moderat and not meant as a race bike but a town bike. even those can be dangerous. the main this is use your head, dont ride over your limit, and always pay attention. allot of times its not you as the rider that gets you hurt but the dumb fucks in the cars. I had a girl almost pull out infront of me right when i was looking back to see if a cop was behind me, i look ahead and she is slamming on breaks about to be in my lane. it can happen just that fast, i think i was doing about 60 at the time, prob would of hurt me pretty damn bad. so those situations are out that no matter what.

    but enough with the lecture for you, if you want a bike you need to show them you can ride a bike. if you have never road a bike before then start off slow like i said. if you want to get a race bike you need a good couple of years under your belt. allot of good pep get killed just bc they wasnt experiance enough. and yeah your 17, wait till your 18 and see what happens. if your in the house well you are out of luck, but maybe you can say ur paying for everything so its all covered.

  7. I seen 4 cars that where all smashed up yesterday. Plus about once a month someone will push their car off the mountain lol.

    yes i was riding my gsxr 600 along with my buddies at like 2am other night. a car had ran off the interstat into the patch of tree's it looked like it wrapped one tree and bounced off and went into another tree. the car was lmost in three different pieces was one of the worst ive ever seen in my life hands down. whoever it was didnt survive that one bc the drivre side was no longer even there. and when i passed it i had my helmet cam turned off, sorry guys

  8. coming from someone who has had over 10 years of riding under my belt and was racing pro motocross for a year all i can tell you is dont get a cbr600-gsxr1000 none of the race bikes. you will most likly hurt yourself in all truth. im not being negative, but the fact is if you have no riding experiance all you will know to do is go fast and thats it. you wont know what to do in high speed situations, blow outs, crashes, stopping fast enough without endoing with front brake. get you a nice bike that you can learn on for atleast a year or so then i would say you can get a race bike if thats what you want.

    there is allot of stuff to know and learn and it takes a little while .even with me doing all the shit i do my parents still wont let me have one until im out of the house. so dont feel bad on that part lol. ive dont supermoto, motocross, dirt trackin, shifter carts, drag racing, allof of stupid shit. just learn and have fun, and always remember that if you feel you are riding over your limit of comfort back it down bc you will get hurt if not then the next time. trust me, i know lmao

  9. damn it, realized it posted this in subwoofer section. face falm on me, feeling stupid right now sorry guys

    going to be some USACI comps coming up here soon the one im worried about is march 27th because im trying to get all my stuff audio in order on time so i can compete. there are allot more, but just wanted to see who all was going to be hitting some up this year. post your number and results on this page as well instead of making another thread and we can keep all the USACI comp results together. good luck to everyone who is going to be entering and hope to see some good numbers this year from myself and others.

    anything bold is what i should be entering this year

    ok, enough talk, here are the events posted to date, you can go to the site for more info. so get off your ass and get your stuff ready lmao

    03/20/10 11:00 1 Mccain Mobile Audio FARMINGTON NM 505-324-8419 SPL DP 4000 Main Street - Farmington, NM 87402

    03/21/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF COMMERCE GA 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP ATLANTA DRAGWAY - 500 E. Ridgeway Road - Commerce, GA 30529

    03/27/10 12:00 1 TOP DOLLAR PAWN JACKSON MS 601-713-2274 FE+CS TP 3705 Northwest St. - Jackson, MS 39216

    03/28/10 10:00 1 X-Treme Car Audio WESLACO TX 956-873-0024 FE+CS SP Weslaco City Park - 301 South Border Avenue - Weslaco, TX 78596

    03/28/10 10:00 1 South Arkansas Soundoff Tour 2010 LITTLE ROCK AR 479-750-0505 FE+CS SP 1205 B S. University, Little Rock, 72204

    04/04/10 11:00 1 5th Annual Ghetto Block Party HOUSTON TX 281-513-2528 FE+CS SP Kings Flea Market - 5110 Griggs road Houston, TX 77021

    04/10/10 08:00 2 Bailys Lakefront Tour LAKE CHARLES LA 228-324-7671 FE+CS TP Lake Charles Civic Center - Lake Charles, LA 70607

    04/10/10 10:00 1 Bear Cave Cruisers ORANGE TX 281-513-2528 FE+CS DP Motion Audio - 7327 N. Hwy 87 - Orange, TX 77632

    04/10/10 18:00 1 BAS Graphics HARLINGEN TX 956-873-0024 SPL+CS SP Gutierrez Park - 500 W. Harrison St - Harlingen, TX 78550

    04/11/10 10:00 1 South Arkansas Soundoff Tour 2010 EL DORADO AR 479-750-0505 FE+CS SP 1409 NW Avenue El Dorado AR, 71730

    04/11/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF CRANDALL TX 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP DALLAS RACEWAY - 8055 W Highway 175 - Crandall, TX 75114

    04/17/10 12:00 1 TOP DOLLAR PAWN HOUMA LA 985-872-9938 FE+CS TP 4843 Hwy 182 - Houma, LA 70364

    04/17/10 16:00 1 MST ELECTRONICS PRAIRIEVILLE LA 225-744-3296 SPL SP 17238 Airline Hwy - Prairieville, La. 70769

    04/17/10 10:00 1 AUDIO EFX Hobbs NM 505-393-6478 SPL DP 1904 N. Dal Paso - Hobbs, NM

    04/18/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF NOBLE OK 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP THUNDER VALLEY - 10500 S. 48th St - Noble, OK 73068

    04/18/10 10:00 1 DIBM - Import VS Tuner - USACI TUCSON AZ 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP Pima County Fairgrounds 11955 S. Harrison Road, Tucson, AZ. 85747

    04/17/10 10:00 1 Car Toys - ARLINGTON ARLINGTON TX 817-466-2533 FE+CS SP 1116 W. Arbrook Blvd. Arlington, TX 76015

    04/24/10 10:00 1 LOUD & CLEAR KANSAS CITY KS 913-287-1556 SPL DP 5237 State Avenue - Kansas City, KS 66102

    04/24/10 10:00 2 San Antonio Heatwave SAN ANTONIO TX 479-750-0505 FE+CS TP Nelson Wolff Stadium - 5757 Hwy 90 West - San Antonio Texas 78227

    04/24/10 10:00 1 South Arkansas Soundoff Tour 2010 FORDYCE AR 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP Main St and W 4th Downtown, Forduce AR, 71742

    04/24/10 11:00 1 Kill Switch 2010 CONROE TX 281-513-2528 FE+CS SP 9055 Airport Rd FM 1484 - Conroe, TX 77303

    04/25/10 09:00 1 KCIR High School Drags KANSAS CITY MO 816-358-6700 FE+CS DP KCIR - 8201 S. Noland Rd. - Kansas City - Mo - 64138

    05/01/10 10:00 1 Accessories Unlimited NORMAN OK 479-750-0505 FE+CS SP 5600 Huettner - Norman, OK, 73069

    05/02/10 10:00 1 South Arkansas Soundoff Tour 2010 HOT SPRINGS AR 479-750-0505 FE+CS SP Hot Springs Memorial Field - 525 Airport Road - Hot Springs, AR 71913

    05/02/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF KANSAS CITY MO 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP KANSAS CITY RACEWAY - 8201 Noland Road - Kansas City, MO 64138

    05/08/10 12:00 1 TOP DOLLAR PAWN SHREVEPORT LA 318-226-2868 FE+CS TP 1837 N Market - Shreveport, LA 71107

    05/15/10 09:00 2 SHOWFEST 2010 TUNICA MS 479-750-0505 FE+CS TP www.showfest.com Sams Town Hotel Casino Tunica, MS

    05/15/10 09:00 2 Killer Audio Wave - Mexico Tampico XX 479-750-0505 FE+CS TP Beachfront Lot - Tampico, MX

    05/15/10 10:00 2 The Digz OMAHA NE 479-750-0505 FE+CS TP 140th & Old L St, Omaha, NE 68137

    05/16/10 10:00 1 South Arkansas Soundoff Tour 2010 PINE BLUFF AR 479-750-0505 FE+CS SP 1706 E Harding Pine Bluff, AR, 71603

    05/16/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF MONTGOMERY AL 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP Montgomery MotorSports Park - 2600 N. Belt Drive - Montgomery, AL 36110

    05/22/10 13:00 1 STREET POUNDERS SHOOTOUT SPRINGER OK 479-750-0505 FE+CS TP Ardmore Dragway - 15793 US HWY 77 - Springer, OK 73458

    05/23/10 12:00 1 Bullies & Slabs Car Show & Sound Off SAN ANTONIO TX 281-513-2528 FE+CS SP Rosedale Park - 340 Dartmouth - San Antonio, TX 78237

    05/23/10 10:00 1 South Arkansas Soundoff Tour 2010 (FINALS) LITTLE ROCK AR 479-750-0505 FE+CS TP 1205 B S. University, Little Rock, AR, 72204

    05/23/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF EPPING NH 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP NEW ENGLAND DRAGWAY - 280 Exeter Road - Epping, NH 03042

    05/29/10 09:00 2 Slammin & Jammin LEBANON TN 479-750-0505 FE+CS TP Wilson Co. Fairgrounds - 945 Baddour Pkwy - Lebanon, TN 37090

    05/29/10 10:00 1 CAR TOYS - Fort Worth FT. WORTH TX 817-292-0078 FE+CS SP 5930 Overton Ridge Blvd Fort Worth, TX 76132

    06/04/10 18:00 1 VISION CAR AUDIO MIDLAND TX 432-520-6222 FE+CS DP 2700 S. RANKIN HWY 349

    06/05/10 12:00 1 Big Daddy's Pawn HICKORY HILL TN 901-546-9252 FE+CS TP 3700 Hickory Hill Rd - Memphis, TN 38115

    06/05/10 13:00 1 CUSTOM SOUND WORKS LUBBOCK TX 806-748-5683 FE+CS SP 8004 INDIANA STE B-10

    06/06/10 10:00 1 Sonus Car Audio CLARKSVILLE TN 931-802-8913 FE SP 1273 Northfield Dr - Clarksville, TN 37040

    06/06/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF MARTIN MI 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP US131 Motorsports Park - 1249 12th Street - Martin, MI 49070

    06/06/10 12:00 1 Hotwired Car Audio JONESBORO AR 870-931-5683 FE+CS SP "2617 S Caraway Rd -

    06/12/10 10:00 1 Car Toys - Plano PLANO TX 972-516-8695 FE+CS SP 2801 Central Expressway Plano, TX 75075

    06/19/10 12:00 1 Beast of the Streets SOUTHAVEN MS 901-338-0221 FE+CS DP DeSoto Civic Center - 4560 Venture Drive - Southaven, MS 38671

    06/20/10 09:00 1 NW Audio PLATTE CITY MO 816-858-2303 FE+CS R 2600 NW Prairie Road Suite D, Platte City, MO, 64079

    06/26/10 08:00 2 Scrapin The Coast BILOXI MS 228-324-7671 FE+CS TP Mississippi Coast Coliseum - 2350 Beach Blvd - Biloxi, MS 39531

    06/26/10 12:00 1 Custom Body and Sound ATLANTIC IA 712-243-2381 FE+CS SP Down town Exira, Ia, 50076

    06/26/10 16:00 1 Car Warz Races and USACI TULSA OK 479-750-0505 FE+CS TP Tulsa Raceway Park - 3101 N Garnett Rd - Tulsa, OK 74116 - 918.437.7223

    06/27/10 12:00 1 METRO AUDIO DYNAMICS OMAHA NE 402-991-7827 FE+CS SP 7710 L Street

    07/10/10 11:00 2 Texas Made Customs HUMBLE TX 281-513-2528 FE+CS SP Humble Convention Center - Humble, TX 77325

    07/10/10 09:00 2 Pandemonium ALEXANDRIA LA 228-324-7671 FE+CS DP Rapides Parish Coliseum - 5600 coliseum Blvd - Alexandria, La. 71303

    07/11/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF CROFTON MD 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP CAPITOL RACEWAY - ROUTE 3 SOUTH - CROFTON, MD 21114

    07/16/10 16:00 1 VIDEO KINGDOM KEARNEY NE 308-234-6425 FE+CS TP TBA

    07/17/10 12:00 1 Street Pounders Shootout KANSAS CITY MO 479-750-0505 FE+CS TP KCIR - 8201 S. Noland Rd. - Kansas City - Mo - 64138

    07/18/10 10:00 1 Import Face-Off PUEBLO CO 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP 3733 North Pueblo Boulevard, Pueblo, CO 81008

    07/25/10 10:00 2 Texas Heatwave AUSTIN TX 479-750-0505 FE+CS R Travis County Expo Center - 7311 West Decker Lane - Austin, TX 78724

    08/07/10 12:00 1 TOP DOLLAR PAWN JACKSON MS 601-713-2274 FE+CS TP 3705 Northwest St. - Jackson, MS 39216

    08/08/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF MAIZE KS 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP K.I.R. 7900 W 61st Street N. - Maize, KS 67101

    08/15/10 10:00 1 Import Face-Off PETERSBURG VA 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP 8018 Boydton Plank Road, Petersburg, VA 23803

    08/15/10 11:00 1 SHADES CUSTOM TINT HEWITT TX 254-666-2665 FE+CS TP Lacy Lakeview - Waco, Tx

    08/21/10 12:00 1 TOP DOLLAR PAWN BOSSIER CITY LA 318-741-3966 FE+CS TP 4050 E Texas St - Bossier City, LA 71111

    08/21/10 20:00 1 USACI Judges Training (SQ) COLLEGE STATION TX 479-750-0505 Pending SP 909 University Dr E College Station, Tx 77840

    08/22/10 09:00 1 Aggieland Invitational Usaci COLLEGE STATION TX 979-268-6066 FE+CS TP 909 University Dr E College Station, Tx 77840

    08/22/10 11:00 1 CHUCKY'S CONNECTION LONGVIEW TX 903-553-9982 FE+CS DP 1908 E Cotton - Longview, TX 75602

    08/28/10 09:00 2 Lincoln Tech - Pep Boys GRAND PRAIRIE TX 281-513-2528 FE+CS TP Lincoln Tech - 2915 Alouette Dr. Grand Praire, TX 75052

    08/29/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF HEBRON OH 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP National Trail Raceway - 2650 NATIONAL RD SW. - HEBRON, OH 43025

    09/05/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF KANSAS CITY MO 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP KCIR - 8201 Noland Road - Kansas City, MO 64138

    09/11/10 10:00 1 Car Toys - Finals ARLINGTON TX 817-466-2533 FE+CS TP 116 W. Arbrook Blvd. Arlington, TX 76015

    09/18/10 11:00 2 Gulf Coast Bash 2010 FREEPORT TX 281-513-2528 FE+CS TP 411 Sailfish Ave. - Freeport, TX 77541

    09/19/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF TULSA OK 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP www.tulsaracewaypark.com - 3101 N Garnett Rd - Tulsa, OK 74116

    09/25/10 12:00 1 TOP DOLLAR PAWN HOUMA LA 985-872-9938 FE+CS TP 4843 Hwy 182 - Houma, LA 70364

    09/26/10 09:00 1 KCIR High School Drags KANSAS CITY MO 816-358-6700 FE+CS DP KCIR - 8201 S. Noland Rd. - Kansas City - Mo - 64138

    10/02/10 10:00 2 Corpus Christi Heatwave CORPUS CHRISTI TX 479-750-0505 FE+CS TP Ameribank Center - 1901 Shoreline Blvd - Corpus Christi, TX 78403

    10/03/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF PORT ALLEN LA 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP State Capitol Raceway - 11436 Highway 190 West - Port Allen, LA - 70767

    10/09/10 10:00 2 Battle Drag LA MARQUE TX 281-513-2528 FE+CS SP Gulf Greyhound Park - 7575 FM 2004 Rd #3 - Hitchcock, TX 77563

    10/09/10 10:00 1 Custom Body and Sound ATLANTIC IA 712-243-2381 FE+CS DP 213 Walnut Street

    10/10/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF GAINESVILLE FL 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP GAINSVILLE RACEWAY - 11211 N County Road 225 - Gainesville, FL 32609

    10/16/10 12:00 1 Big Daddy's Pawn HICKORY HILL TN 901-546-9252 FE+CS TP 3700 Hickory Hill Rd - Memphis, TN 38115

    10/17/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF LAS VEGAS NV 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP Las Vegas Motor Speedway - 7000 Las Vegas Blvd. N. - Las Vegas, NV 89115

    10/23/10 09:00 2 Last Resort Car Show JENNINGS LA 228-324-7671 FE+CS TP Jennings Oil & Gas Park - Jennings, La. 70546

    10/30/10 13:00 1 STREET POUNDERS SHOOTOUT SPRINGER OK 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP Ardmore Dragway - 15793 US Hwy 77 - Springer, OK 73458

    11/04/10 11:00 1 4th Annual Fry's Electronics WEBSTER TX 281-513-2528 FE+CS TP 21300 Gulf Fwy ( I-45 south) - Webster, TX 77598

    11/07/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF MTGY AL 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP Montgomery MotorSports Park - 2600 N. Belt Drive - Montgomery, AL 36110

    11/13/10 12:00 1 TOP DOLLAR PAWN SHREVEPORT LA 318-226-2868 FE+CS TP 1837 N Market - Shreveport, LA 71107

    11/14/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF ENNIS TX 479-750-0505 FE+CS DP TEXAS MOTORPLEX - 7500 W Ennis Ave, Ennis, TX. 75119

    11/20/10 10:00 1 Heat Wave Finals DALLAS TX 479-750-0505 FE+CS TP Dallas, Texas

    12/04/10 10:00 2 Turkey Drag TYLER TX 281-513-2528 FE+CS DP Skyvue Drive in Theater - 10713 Hwy. 69 North - Tyler, TX 75705

    12/12/10 12:00 1 IMPORT FACE OFF MARION TX 479-

  10. Strange topic here? Doesn't make alot of sense.

    idk it was fine reading it until i noticed he has the HDC3 subs already. then im like wtf after that. thats like me having my 2 10'' subs i got built sitting in my room and having a 500rms amp (when i need 3000rms) and going to buy 2 more 10'' for now. just run what you got, its not gone hurt your subs any

  11. dude wtf, your not making any since here. you have the subs already? but you want to buy 4 Fi subs for now? why? just install the HDC3 subs you got now, build your box, and do waht you got to do. if you can spend $1,000 get a alt, wire, box and shit and start on build

  12. its innovative and id really like to see it. i think it would have good results too. considering where the subs or ports can be placed. play your cards right and itll almost be like a port score haha

    yeah i plan on finding out just how close the subs can be to the port and still be legal. lmao should get a good score that will be hard for anyone to beat in my class. would this be considered modified? or no? box will not be higher then the window lining but will be pretty far up like even with the front of seat or to where the consol comes in the pic. was looking into it more last night, I might, key word might get 3 15'' in there, if not 2 is a deff on this

  13. ok so ive been doing some thinking for the upcoming compitition this year and feel that instead of using 2 10'' im going to try and use 3 15'' subwoofers make by ken. now my plan is to take the passenger seat out and have the box come up about 25'' or more and have it that much in depth until it gets to my seat then drop down to like 9'' TD and BD. have the port or ports behind my seat and the subs facing the dash. or should i have the sub facing up? this is when i start to have a problem. im not sure how i should face the subs or how to get the BEST spl score along with decent demo sound. this set up will be in my truck for about 2 weeks only, then will strip it out and put the 2 10'' in there. lmao i know , dont say anything

    so any thoughts from anyone, heres that cab of the truck

    Picture003-1.jpg

    the box will be designed the same behind my seat, but as soon as the box passes my seat its shooting forward not back this time

    102_2246.jpg

    you can see with this photo just how much i can extend the box, so im thinking more than 25'' i have to go take some measurments tom morning

    102_2245.jpg

    the box is going to pretty much take up the passenger seat side, strickly for comp only

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