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Also what siZe is your subwoofer that hOle lOoks pretty big
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Is the box volume to he recommendations of your company's?
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You will hear tons of port noise. Great idea but you'll need more port mAnyeah i was thinking of sealing it but i wanna hear how it sounds first
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Sealed or ported?
I believe the little hole on the side is the port. but...i dont see that working out too well.
Lol great looking box I just think you should read up a bit on port area and size sir. I do like your creativity. I know ram was just bustin his chops
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I apologize as I'm new to making boxes but should there be a gap on both sides in picture 5? Shouldn't one be sealed off? As for the carpet no take a razor around it take off some of the extra
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Found some good reading finally for anyone else
http://www.carstereo.com/help/Articles.cfm?id=62
Also one other question... Since you cover the mounting hole for he speaker with fleece resin and bondo do yu cut it out after or do you just not resin that part and cut out that part later when it's dry being that if yu didnt resin it it would still be clothy
Just reAd this whole thing.... Wonderful reAd was Bout to get it from home depot too...
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After you sand your fleece you can put as many layers as you want without sanding in between. As long as it hasn't dryer you can add layers. But once it cures then you would have to sand it. But otherwise you've got it. This is mat. http://us.m.yahoo.co...lang=en&.sep=fp
Oooh, saw that at home depot yesterday.. thank you sir I appreciate your help as well as JrChev.
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Make sure fleece is stapled before soaking with resin mixture. Fleece needs it to be where you need it to be and stretched as tight as possible. Then soak, then mat and then apply more resin mix to the mat. But if you let the soaked fleece dry before adding the mat you should sand it a bit because some resins can leave a waxy film once cured.
Agh ok so i sand the kick panel with 80 grit sand paper then get strips of mdf as long as I need them mdf cutout as big as I need screw the strips onto the kick panel, screw the mdf cutout onto the strips stretch the fleece onto it tightly staple the fleece apply resin and hardener let it dry a bit but also sand it down some add Matt( still no idea what that is) apply resin and hadener to it sand it apply another coat sand that apply bondo to where I need or want it to shape it some sand that down with a 120 grit then it's good to go? Hope this one is right lol
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I take it the mat is another price I need to buy. So soak the fleece out it it around my kicks with the mdf ring yada yada staple the fleece tight waitbforbit to dry add th mat? Put resin on that let it dry another coat dry them sand bondo and sand some more
Ment soak as it was said above. The Fleese is first then the Matt? Both get layered with resin? Thanks for your help btw fellers
i think u meant stretch the fleece lol after you stretch the fleece soak it, but dont let the resin dry in between coats if it does dry you have to sand it again and that will eat up sandpaper, and for the mat autozone or advance sell it for around 8-10 bux its not the best stuff but it holds up to a re sx18 on 1000 watts
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I take it the mat is another price I need to buy. So soak the fleece out it it around my kicks with the mdf ring yada yada staple the fleece tight waitbforbit to dry add th mat? Put resin on that let it dry another coat dry them sand bondo and sand some more
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My apologies but you said apply reasin and hardener then mat and coat it with resin and hardener? Is that the same step? Only part I'm not understanding
Does it I was looking for some but it is separate :/ and I'm FiberglassingI for laughs kearn something newSo no resin hardener?
yes hardener is required and it comes with the resin, sorry my brains not fully functional at 3 in the morning lol
you can buy it seperately as you have to mix more hardener the lower the temp is, getting the ratio right is crucial if you mix a little too much itll harden in minutes and creates a bit of heat that causes stress cracks in the glass, and if you mix too little it takes forever to dry, you also need to make sure its mixed well or youll end up with soft spots
Damn sounds like a pain to get the ratio right... Suppose I would rather mix to little and let it sit a few days then to much lol guess I gotta experiment with it. I see resin is sold in bigger incremints than hardener so I would assume you don't need much hardener
in the fiberglassing section theres a ratio list pinned for the mekp hardener(resin hardener)
Okay I think I might try with my kick panels since I'm not using them as for the mdf cutout what would I use to hold that up while I resin it?
you can use wooden dowels or strips of leftover mdf and screw it to the kicks, and if you have a good staple gun you can staple the fabric to the plastic. i had to do that on the door panels i did, youll prolly have to bend the staples over in the back for clearance when you reinstall, and also make sure to rough the plastic up with 60 or 80 grit to get the glass to adhere to the plastic. if you take you time and pay attention to detail you could have something that looks like this
That looks clean man I think I get what you mean by dowels... So sand it with 80 grit then use Just little strips of mdf as tall as I want it to stick out mdf ring as big as the speaker screw dowels to kick from the back hidden if it was installed screw mdf ring to the dowels put the fleece over it TIGHT staple it in back as well by screws apply resin hardener sand a little more once dry the high spots or to shape it add bondo let it try sand again finer grit 120 or so them paint?
close you got it good up until the hardener, stretch the fleece and staple it down then apply the resin/hardener mixture then while its still tacky apply the mat and coat it in the resin/hardener mixture, depending on how strong you want it depends on how many coats of mat and resin you use, for kicks 2 coats of mat and resin are plenty but for sub enclosures you want somewhere around 5 to 7 depending on how thick the mat is, then hit it with the 80 grit spread the bondo sand it nice and prime then paint
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Does it I was looking for some but it is separate :/ and I'm FiberglassingI for laughs kearn something newSo no resin hardener?
yes hardener is required and it comes with the resin, sorry my brains not fully functional at 3 in the morning lol
you can buy it seperately as you have to mix more hardener the lower the temp is, getting the ratio right is crucial if you mix a little too much itll harden in minutes and creates a bit of heat that causes stress cracks in the glass, and if you mix too little it takes forever to dry, you also need to make sure its mixed well or youll end up with soft spots
Damn sounds like a pain to get the ratio right... Suppose I would rather mix to little and let it sit a few days then to much lol guess I gotta experiment with it. I see resin is sold in bigger incremints than hardener so I would assume you don't need much hardener
in the fiberglassing section theres a ratio list pinned for the mekp hardener(resin hardener)
Okay I think I might try with my kick panels since I'm not using them as for the mdf cutout what would I use to hold that up while I resin it?
you can use wooden dowels or strips of leftover mdf and screw it to the kicks, and if you have a good staple gun you can staple the fabric to the plastic. i had to do that on the door panels i did, youll prolly have to bend the staples over in the back for clearance when you reinstall, and also make sure to rough the plastic up with 60 or 80 grit to get the glass to adhere to the plastic. if you take you time and pay attention to detail you could have something that looks like this
That looks clean man I think I get what you mean by dowels... So sand it with 80 grit then use Just little strips of mdf as tall as I want it to stick out mdf ring as big as the speaker screw dowels to kick from the back hidden if it was installed screw mdf ring to the dowels put the fleece over it TIGHT staple it in back as well by screws apply resin hardener let it dry then sand a little once its completely dry the high spots that is or to shape it. Add bondo let it drry , sand again finer grit 120 or so them paint?
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Im not an expert at it but I would use half and half and we would leave them over night to harden and in about over 14 years later the things we did are still hard just like when we finish them... So it's not as hard as it looks it does cause either your afraid of doing something wrong but it shouldnt
Didn't you just say you didn't know how to do it either?..... Anyways I'm willing to try it no problem just need to find a step by step way of doing it.
But it will take time to master it
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Does it I was looking for some but it is separate :/ and I'm FiberglassingI for laughs kearn something newSo no resin hardener?
yes hardener is required and it comes with the resin, sorry my brains not fully functional at 3 in the morning lol
you can buy it seperately as you have to mix more hardener the lower the temp is, getting the ratio right is crucial if you mix a little too much itll harden in minutes and creates a bit of heat that causes stress cracks in the glass, and if you mix too little it takes forever to dry, you also need to make sure its mixed well or youll end up with soft spots
Damn sounds like a pain to get the ratio right... Suppose I would rather mix to little and let it sit a few days then to much lol guess I gotta experiment with it. I see resin is sold in bigger incremints than hardener so I would assume you don't need much hardener
in the fiberglassing section theres a ratio list pinned for the mekp hardener(resin hardener)
Okay I think I might try with my kick panels since I'm not using them as for the mdf cutout what would I use to hold that up while I resin it?
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Does it I was looking for some but it is separate :/ and I'm FiberglassingI for laughs kearn something newSo no resin hardener?
yes hardener is required and it comes with the resin, sorry my brains not fully functional at 3 in the morning lol
you can buy it seperately as you have to mix more hardener the lower the temp is, getting the ratio right is crucial if you mix a little too much itll harden in minutes and creates a bit of heat that causes stress cracks in the glass, and if you mix too little it takes forever to dry, you also need to make sure its mixed well or youll end up with soft spots
Damn sounds like a pain to get the ratio right... Suppose I would rather mix to little and let it sit a few days then to much lol guess I gotta experiment with it. I see resin is sold in bigger incremints than hardener so I would assume you don't need much hardener
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Does it I was looking for some but it is separate :/ and I'm FiberglassingI for laughs kearn something newSo no resin hardener?
yes hardener is required and it comes with the resin, sorry my brains not fully functional at 3 in the morning lol
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Does it I was looking for some but it is separate :/ and I'm FiberglassingI for laughs kearn something newSo no resin hardener?
yes hardener is required and it comes with the resin, sorry my brains not fully functional at 3 in the morning lol
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So no resin hardener?
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fleece, mat, resin and practice lol, the hardest part is not getting wrinkles in the fabric and bubbles in the mat but im sure if you make a thread in that section someone will be able to shed some more light on the subject, id deffinately be tuned in im decent with glass but im always looking for more knowledgeResin hardener mdf cutouts bondo and sandpaper to Ay?
I've used resin so I know what that is but what's fleece and mat?
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Would t u be able to see the wrinkle first anyways? Tad confusedfleece, mat, resin and practice lol, the hardest part is not getting wrinkles in the fabric and bubbles in the mat but im sure if you make a thread in that section someone will be able to shed some more light on the subject, id deffinately be tuned in im decent with glass but im always looking for more knowledge
Lol you posted my answesr at the same time I posted
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look in the fabrication section theres a lot of useful info there
http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/forum/15-fabrication-fiberglass-etc/
That works thank you sir
Looking through it nice FiberglassingI but doesn't exactly tell me what's needed or how to do it. Completely new to this.
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I apologize first of all as I'm sure this is a repeating question but I can't seem to find a straight answer anywhere.. I'm looking to learn to fiberglass and wondering what I'll need. The resin resin hardener also bondo with the mdf rings. But what goes on top of the rings that I apply the resin too. I'm trying to find the process to do this but can only find one vid of a guy not talking at all... If anyone. Could help me out with this or toss me a good link for it I'd appreciate it greatly I'm on mobile trying to look everywhere. I apologize again I'm sure there's always some noob wanting to fiberass something
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Yea, I think I got it. Thanks for the input!
Anytime man, let me know how it goes!
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Stop, Before upgrading and making another box read up a bit about them if you are going to design it yourself otherwise you'll get a new woofer smoke it an wonder what the hell happened