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  1. How much power could a zv3 15 take daily?

    in Sundown Audio - GREAT Amps/Subs! GREAT Customer Service!

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    how much power it can take daily? 1500 rms..

    people who throw more power to a sub dont run them on daily setups or even more than a minute if not less.. he is asking for a daily driver that he will use it as he drives and it can be for hour long trips.. if anyone plans on running any sub no matter what brand it is it wont take the abuse. i dont give a shit if its the Fi , aa, dc or any top brand.. aint no sub going to take over the rated power over a long period of time. the rating is there for a reason.. i used to think the same way when i was a newb.. shit this guys run 2 times its power rating how do they do it.. its easy.. its only for a short period of time not something they beat on all day on a daily setup

    in a daily setup, impedance is fluctuating so much that you are never seeing a steady amount of power for a long period of time. I often overpower all my subs for that very reason. Shit bighoss ran 16k to 8 XFL 12s

    daily, he'd be good with overpowering the sub IF he knew what he was doing, and what to listen/smell for. But in his case, I'd keep it at the rated spec

    x2 on this. Running rated rms power always disappoints me. I feel like those rating are intended for newbies who match amp to sub rms power but clip the shit out of the signal. Setting gains correctly I don't see why you couldn't 1.5x rms or more and get the the most out of your equipment.

    Sure say you match rms of a sub with the rms of the amp. Impedance rise and all is going to eat away that power so at the end of the day you'll be seeing 1/4 of rms rating.

    I enjoy when I can put CLAMPED rms to my subs.

    Just my 2 cents.

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  11. Skar Audio SK-4500.1D Amplifier Dyno (Power) Test Results -- 8,600+ WATTS!!!

    in SKAR AUDIO - (READ ONLY ARCHIVE)

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    Damn how did I miss that 15.42 Volts

    You also know, that the .5 load test, is reactive right? .Not nominal....

    Would you wire to like .2 ?

    I thought it was nominal not reactive. Like nominal would mean that it is always .5 and a reactive load would change.

    Could be wrong though.

    No, the Dyno tests using purely resistive loads. It is NOT subject to any type of rise. If a test is done at 1 ohm, then that is what the amp is seeing for the entire duration of that test.

    Now that being said, the dynamic test is much easier on the amp and electrical than the certified or uncertified tests. I would be very surprised if that amp stayed on for a .5ohm certified test.

    And for the fact that he simply states they will not warranty the amp at .5 ohm. I don't get why a company would test at .5 ohm load and then not warranty if they are going to brag about results? Still great numbers and loved my 4500s.
    It will give you an idea of what you will get with impedance rise factored in.

    For example, as kyle said, 1 ohm dyno will be similar to wiring to .5 in your vehicle.

    I have to disagree. I have wired to .5 ohm and seen anywhere from 1.2-6 ohms reactive.
    Should have been so specific. Obviously you're not going to see exactly exactly 1 ohm on the dot every time.

    But the point I was trying to make was it will get you in the ballpark.

  12. Skar Audio SK-4500.1D Amplifier Dyno (Power) Test Results -- 8,600+ WATTS!!!

    in SKAR AUDIO - (READ ONLY ARCHIVE)

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    Damn how did I miss that 15.42 Volts

    You also know, that the .5 load test, is reactive right? .Not nominal....

    Would you wire to like .2 ?

    I thought it was nominal not reactive. Like nominal would mean that it is always .5 and a reactive load would change.

    Could be wrong though.

    No, the Dyno tests using purely resistive loads. It is NOT subject to any type of rise. If a test is done at 1 ohm, then that is what the amp is seeing for the entire duration of that test.

    Now that being said, the dynamic test is much easier on the amp and electrical than the certified or uncertified tests. I would be very surprised if that amp stayed on for a .5ohm certified test.

    And for the fact that he simply states they will not warranty the amp at .5 ohm. I don't get why a company would test at .5 ohm load and then not warranty if they are going to brag about results? Still great numbers and loved my 4500s.
    It will give you an idea of what you will get with impedance rise factored in.

    For example, as kyle said, 1 ohm dyno will be similar to wiring to .5 in your vehicle.

  16. FREE EDUCATION

    in D'Amore Engineering - High Quality Car Audio Installation Tools & Accessories

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    Holy hell. 16 pages of beating a dead horse to come up with.... zero new information.

    One thing I hadn't considered that Tony touched on (and that is annoying me now) is the markup. Yeah... aluminum is cheaper. And it very welll should be; becuase copper is trading ~ $3.25/lb right now while aluminum is more like $0.80/lb. That makes copper 4x as valuable yet CCA is only ~ 1/2 the price. Those bastards!!! CCA should be like, 50 cents a foot, damnit.

    In my world... I use what's close or what's cheap. And that's usually welding cable. It's f'n wire. I could not give two shits. But then again... I don't try to pass 500A through a single 20ft run of 1/0.

    I applaud the educational vids. They're sorely needed for some, redundant for some but uniteresting to most. Or is it disinteresting?

    Wake me when you get to the 600 level courses.

    How many runs do you use for said amperage? Out of curiosity

  20. FREE EDUCATION

    in D'Amore Engineering - High Quality Car Audio Installation Tools & Accessories

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    You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Please pm me instances of me bitching at noobs.

    Your statement was not, I think CCA is inferior to OFC...your statement was, "how dare you argue with the man named Tony! Humble yourselves and accept his words" of course I paraphrased a bit there.

    I've ran OFC and switched to CCA, so you can't even get that right. Who cares about knowing more than someone? Are you feeling insecure there? Because a level of intelligence has nothing to do with it. Maybe I'll say it slower for you because you're having trouble.

    I ran OFC wiring triple mechman 270s charging a total of 9 D3100s, on music full tilt on three RF T4000s powering three 15" BTLs and scored a legal 56.7 with voltage at 14.3. Swapped to CCA, same score at the same frequency, same voltage. Only difference was the price. So why should I way an extra $500 for nothing? You say I should open my mind, have you opened yours? Have you swapped one from the other properly using both and seen a difference? If so, please share. But don't ever assume because we are debating something we are being disrespectful. And when in a debate with something like OFC vs CCA dkmt ever say, don't argue with tony just humble yourself. That shi cray

    And where am I l pissing and moaning because something is on the chopping block? Lol, you have a very skewed perception of events and it tickles me.

    Just popping into this here for a second..

    Maybe you were not pulling enough amperage to stress the wire? If you were pushing the ofc to it's max draw (wire getting warm) then switched to cca, I don't see how the score would stay the same.

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