BillKessel

What is all thread?

Bracing... as in inside the box?

I have 2 JL w6's in a upside down ported enclosure port facing front. that being said, the back of my box (non ported side) is rattling like a mofo below ~ 35 hz and below. How could i make it stronger, literally its screwed in a billion times its the middle of the back if i have the volume at low enough levels to where it does it i can ALMOST stop it with my hands, but i have no idea on how to make the wood stronger. I thought about doubling it up but then i would just have two pieces of wood clackin against eachother...

Okay all over youtube i see people posting video's of there subs playing " I wanna love you" But the musics slowed. ( me being a absolute noob) If i slowed the song by my self or someone else did it for me wouldnt it get choppy how video's slow down on youtube? is there someone who could possibly teach me how .. and clipping. would there be major clipping after?

Its the soft tops, (if you had one) its like me leaving my window down. it sounds just as clear lol

Your pretty close to me. i live like 2 mins from elmer, and 10 mins from glassboro. its just kids at school being pricks since i dropped out haha they jelly

Thanks n8 Rogue- Yeah ive got some old friends that i dont go to school with anymore being pain's in my rear end complaining when i go past there house they hear it for about 10 seconds, its not even a loud system just 2 w6's in a ported box. i guess its the softtop and the quite country!

Does anyone know the laws about loud music for NJ?

BUT!!!! a 4000 watt rms 18 sure the hell is much stiffer then a 600 watt 12 so giving the 4000 rms sub 1200 watts will be under powered and not move as much as the 12's with the same power.. you could run a bigger more effecinet box but that will only go so far in all my testing the subs getting there rms was allways louder and less peaky then the under powered sub Just because a woofer can handle more power, does not meant that it will be stiffer. In fact, it shouldnt be. Some are, yes, but it depends on the woofer. The stiffness of some woofers is a side effect of the adding lateral control to the suspension. You can say. But you are saying that your woofers get smelly from 600w rms each? I think you may have another issue at hand and that distortion. Have you attempted to adjust gains and level settings with an O-scope or any clipping meter? Or the help of a knowledgeable gain setter? Proper tuning can be your solution. Also, if you are looking to upgrade, a higher end single 18 does have the potential to perform better. I would suggest an efficient woofer but also set your gains right or you may have the same issue. The sub im looking at is an SMD 18 The gains were set buy an authorized JL audio dealer. as for clipping the headunit never goes above 24/35 and the ipod is on 80/100 i check all my songs on audacity for clipping as well. if i see one clipped note, it doesn't play ever. to much money in this system with little to no bang just cause a dealer set your gains in no way means he knows what hes doing he MIGHT but he is a sales person thats it for the smd i would look at a differnt sub that thing is a beast i dont think your ready for Dont act like you never had your first time at anything. I am on this forum for a reason. dude i was being serious with you its a lot of money and you really should know what your doing with that sub did you walk befor you could crawl? if you cant understand why your subs smell YET i say yet cause you can learn then really your not ready but just cause i say that dont mean shit go for it if you really want it ill put it to this way i got into rc helicopters had a few ok ones then jumped up to a super big boy crazy one i keep destroying because i thought i was ready i was not so now i keep repairing it cause i dunno what i am doing and i crash it i now put it on the self and now i am getting a better more simple learning heli befor i try and fly the expensive bad ass one ive speny more money between my two w6's then this one SMD. This is a downgrade in cost, but upgrade in power. I will learn as you have learned with your helicopter. But i actually have the money to keep using the bad ass smd. You spent too much thanks for point out the obvious . what would i ever do with out the pointless statement?

BUT!!!! a 4000 watt rms 18 sure the hell is much stiffer then a 600 watt 12 so giving the 4000 rms sub 1200 watts will be under powered and not move as much as the 12's with the same power.. you could run a bigger more effecinet box but that will only go so far in all my testing the subs getting there rms was allways louder and less peaky then the under powered sub Just because a woofer can handle more power, does not meant that it will be stiffer. In fact, it shouldnt be. Some are, yes, but it depends on the woofer. The stiffness of some woofers is a side effect of the adding lateral control to the suspension. You can say. But you are saying that your woofers get smelly from 600w rms each? I think you may have another issue at hand and that distortion. Have you attempted to adjust gains and level settings with an O-scope or any clipping meter? Or the help of a knowledgeable gain setter? Proper tuning can be your solution. Also, if you are looking to upgrade, a higher end single 18 does have the potential to perform better. I would suggest an efficient woofer but also set your gains right or you may have the same issue. The sub im looking at is an SMD 18 The gains were set buy an authorized JL audio dealer. as for clipping the headunit never goes above 24/35 and the ipod is on 80/100 i check all my songs on audacity for clipping as well. if i see one clipped note, it doesn't play ever. to much money in this system with little to no bang just cause a dealer set your gains in no way means he knows what hes doing he MIGHT but he is a sales person thats it for the smd i would look at a differnt sub that thing is a beast i dont think your ready for Dont act like you never had your first time at anything. I am on this forum for a reason. dude i was being serious with you its a lot of money and you really should know what your doing with that sub did you walk befor you could crawl? if you cant understand why your subs smell YET i say yet cause you can learn then really your not ready but just cause i say that dont mean shit go for it if you really want it ill put it to this way i got into rc helicopters had a few ok ones then jumped up to a super big boy crazy one i keep destroying because i thought i was ready i was not so now i keep repairing it cause i dunno what i am doing and i crash it i now put it on the self and now i am getting a better more simple learning heli befor i try and fly the expensive bad ass one ive speny more money between my two w6's then this one SMD. This is a downgrade in cost, but upgrade in power. I will learn as you have learned with your helicopter. But i actually have the money to keep using the bad ass smd.

BUT!!!! a 4000 watt rms 18 sure the hell is much stiffer then a 600 watt 12 so giving the 4000 rms sub 1200 watts will be under powered and not move as much as the 12's with the same power.. you could run a bigger more effecinet box but that will only go so far in all my testing the subs getting there rms was allways louder and less peaky then the under powered sub Just because a woofer can handle more power, does not meant that it will be stiffer. In fact, it shouldnt be. Some are, yes, but it depends on the woofer. The stiffness of some woofers is a side effect of the adding lateral control to the suspension. You can say. But you are saying that your woofers get smelly from 600w rms each? I think you may have another issue at hand and that distortion. Have you attempted to adjust gains and level settings with an O-scope or any clipping meter? Or the help of a knowledgeable gain setter? Proper tuning can be your solution. Also, if you are looking to upgrade, a higher end single 18 does have the potential to perform better. I would suggest an efficient woofer but also set your gains right or you may have the same issue. The sub im looking at is an SMD 18 The gains were set buy an authorized JL audio dealer. as for clipping the headunit never goes above 24/35 and the ipod is on 80/100 i check all my songs on audacity for clipping as well. if i see one clipped note, it doesn't play ever. to much money in this system with little to no bang just cause a dealer set your gains in no way means he knows what hes doing he MIGHT but he is a sales person thats it for the smd i would look at a differnt sub that thing is a beast i dont think your ready for Dont act like you never had your first time at anything. I am on this forum for a reason.

BUT!!!! a 4000 watt rms 18 sure the hell is much stiffer then a 600 watt 12 so giving the 4000 rms sub 1200 watts will be under powered and not move as much as the 12's with the same power.. you could run a bigger more effecinet box but that will only go so far in all my testing the subs getting there rms was allways louder and less peaky then the under powered sub Just because a woofer can handle more power, does not meant that it will be stiffer. In fact, it shouldnt be. Some are, yes, but it depends on the woofer. The stiffness of some woofers is a side effect of the adding lateral control to the suspension. You can say. But you are saying that your woofers get smelly from 600w rms each? I think you may have another issue at hand and that distortion. Have you attempted to adjust gains and level settings with an O-scope or any clipping meter? Or the help of a knowledgeable gain setter? Proper tuning can be your solution. Also, if you are looking to upgrade, a higher end single 18 does have the potential to perform better. I would suggest an efficient woofer but also set your gains right or you may have the same issue. The sub im looking at is an SMD 18 The gains were set buy an authorized JL audio dealer. as for clipping the headunit never goes above 24/35 and the ipod is on 80/100 i check all my songs on audacity for clipping as well. if i see one clipped note, it doesn't play ever. to much money in this system with little to no bang That sub is a beast that can handle a ton of heat. But has been shown to shine at power levels above 3000w. If your gains are correct, the enclosure and choice of program material can be another issue if you play songs below the tuning frequency. If all that is good, maybe you do just need (and I feel you want) to upgrade the woofers. The easiest upgrade is just a beefier pair of 12s. But going to a single beefy 18 does give you the chance to upgrade to higher power in the near future. Exactly and the bling bling factor i think the tuning frequency i am playing them at is actually whats making it smell i do notice it happens at around 20-25 hz and then stops smelling terrible when i play 30-50 hz songs and after awhile it goes away. Then if i play the 30-50 hz songs its fine. put on the 20 hz songs it smells i didnt even know that was possible. ( So leads me to the question is that bad) im gonna assume thats its damage some voice coils?

BUT!!!! a 4000 watt rms 18 sure the hell is much stiffer then a 600 watt 12 so giving the 4000 rms sub 1200 watts will be under powered and not move as much as the 12's with the same power.. you could run a bigger more effecinet box but that will only go so far in all my testing the subs getting there rms was allways louder and less peaky then the under powered sub Just because a woofer can handle more power, does not meant that it will be stiffer. In fact, it shouldnt be. Some are, yes, but it depends on the woofer. The stiffness of some woofers is a side effect of the adding lateral control to the suspension. You can say. But you are saying that your woofers get smelly from 600w rms each? I think you may have another issue at hand and that distortion. Have you attempted to adjust gains and level settings with an O-scope or any clipping meter? Or the help of a knowledgeable gain setter? Proper tuning can be your solution. Also, if you are looking to upgrade, a higher end single 18 does have the potential to perform better. I would suggest an efficient woofer but also set your gains right or you may have the same issue. The sub im looking at is an SMD 18 The gains were set buy an authorized JL audio dealer. as for clipping the headunit never goes above 24/35 and the ipod is on 80/100 i check all my songs on audacity for clipping as well. if i see one clipped note, it doesn't play ever. to much money in this system with little to no bang

Unforfently i am not allowed to post about any specific brand because it will bring rager's ill get banned ill PM you the brand i am looking at and have atm. You can post your brand of subs if you want, If you want proper help from posters, you have to. I am a mod, I will allow it. My brand of subs are 2 JL Audio 12w6's on a 1200.1 JL HD amp. if you want the brand of 18 im looking at tell me its allowed and ill post it.

Unforfently i am not allowed to post about any specific brand because it will bring rager's ill get banned ill PM you the brand i am looking at and have atm.

Ive never owned an 18 and from the youtube video's i watch i always see people that can never bottem out a 18 with there hand ... and in some cases can barley move them! And thermal limit is my problem right now since my subs are seriously stinking but not getting hot? i dont know whats wrong but this is why im thinking bigger may be better.

Now it all makes sense for you "Air movement" example. Lets try not to make this a vs thread since if i have one more vs thread i get banned.haha. but i totally understand now. thanks for your help

All of the statements above are true but i didnt want to say to much about the box and stuff because itll make people rage. The last statement in this post, the 18 would be cruising but wouldnt it still be the same loudness lol i guess its a hard topic to explain to a noob

I have been wondering; 2 subs ... Lets say 12's for example 600 RMS Each -with- 1200 watts. 1 sub ... lets say an 18 as another example 4,000 RMS -with- 1200 watts. Would the 12's that take the amp to full potential be the same "loudness" as the 1 18? - to keep it easy lets just say they are in same condition's blah blah blah I am just wondering would it be the same power? I feel like it would but then again im always wrong My theory: If the two subs are maxing out at 600 RMS each on a 1200 watt amp they will be making "x" amount of loudness. If the 18 is taking the SAME 1200 watts i would think they would sound the same due to BOTH are able to take up all 1200 Watts but (this is where i get stumped) Would the amount of cone space or amount of sub woofers take the loudness down? Completely stumped. I am sure for all you smart audio guys out there this is a no brainier haha.

The box does have a leak where air goes through ( to the magent of the subs) since there inverted and the cones shoot down into the port i might be smelling that?

They never get warm? i have the headunit at 24/35 and my ipod 80% flat EQ. I dont bass out like most people do. Both of the subs make a scratching noise when i push them past half way. i dont know if that normal? Both subs are very easy to push it also

Its mostly when there hitting below 30hz. they push alotttt of air out and they smell werid lol. just making sure (as the subs are only a week and a half old)

I have two JL audio w6 12's in a ported box with both subs facing down toward port, when i put my face up to the port i can smell a faint smell from the subs? It does not smell like the memphis that i burned up but it is making me worry!

Thank you both it is e40 - My shit bang.. I thought it was Blegit so i kept looking through all there songs and none of them had the same beat

Thats the song before the song im talking about. sorry i should have been more descriptive :/ do you know that song? hehe