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  3. FREE EDUCATION

    in D'Amore Engineering - High Quality Car Audio Installation Tools & Accessories

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    True, but you're not considering all aspects. What happened differed from what paper said, but you're still believing that somehow my results are flawed. I'm not the only one, and there are 60s vehicle using CCA. Of course then the argument is they would get louder with OFC which we don't know.

    I like that someone theorized that when you reach a certain amount of runs, the conductivity is negligible.

    I think you're not understanding what the paper said :/.

  4. FREE EDUCATION

    in D'Amore Engineering - High Quality Car Audio Installation Tools & Accessories

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    That's my point, you disregard ACTUAL EXPERIENCE in favor of something on paper. We know one to one, OFC is better. Not once has that been debated. But when I used CCA I experienced no drop in performance electronically or spl.

    You simply cannot disregard ACTUAL events simply because on paper it couldn't be. Actually doing something is a part of science too, why are you so focused on what you read instead of what you do? I'm not saying use both, I'm saying wire properly using OFC. Then wire the exact same setup properly using CCA. What difference will you see? Ignore what you see on paper, do it and then see what actually happens.

    When a result contradicts what is expected, you have to consider all aspects.

    With OFC wire you had more than enough to support the current you were trying to pass through. With CCA you still had more than enough....that doesn't mean CCA is equal with OFC...in any way.

    And as you want these tests to be done, i'm sure people with AD-1's will do it in the most proper way, and in a way i wouldn't be able to test them.

  5. FREE EDUCATION

    in D'Amore Engineering - High Quality Car Audio Installation Tools & Accessories

    Posted · Edited by Afficionado

    I'm talking about knowing why different factors act and interact with each other based on the thorough understanding of the subject, rather than "well it's worked fine for me this way so far". People that think "because it worked for me, that makes it right" harm any field in which they try to advise people. The mentality is "post hoc, ergo propter hoc".

    That is your statement every single time you try to argue science vs application, and it doesn't apply. Not in the slightest, even in your workout thread. The fact is, on paper we are shown that OFC wire to wire is better. So then you double a run of the CCA, come up cheaper with no performance loss...that is not "post hoc ergo propter hoc", that is actually a form of science called APPLICATION. Even the best scientific formulas have to be tested and applied, what good do they do on paper? If I switched from OFC to CCA and saved money but didn't drop a single volt or decibel from running OFC...how does your propter fit into that equation? Truth is, it doesn't. And ACTUALLY doing something has merits as well, you just would rather ignore it for something you see on paper but never do.

    The claim was OFC wire is better. It was proven. Enough said. You like to argue but you've never been able to successfully debate any point i've made and always rely on personal experience.

    Absolutely science has to be tested, and it is never accepted until tested. The difference is control, have a single person do something one way isn't considered adequate testing. It needs to be repeated through multiple groups.

    I agree that testing is essential, but i have no idea what you mean by "ignore it for something you see on paper but never do." I have in fact used both CCA and OFC wire and currently run ONLY OFC.

  6. FREE EDUCATION

    in D'Amore Engineering - High Quality Car Audio Installation Tools & Accessories

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    You mean like...actual application? I'm really hoping this science you are talking about actually shows an install and not just formulas on paper. That's my whole point, you call it broscience but I call it actual experience. Same with your fitness thread, but you know...no need for your shameless plug ;)

    I'm talking about knowing why different factors act and interact with each other based on the thorough understanding of the subject, rather than "well it's worked fine for me this way so far". People that think "because it worked for me, that makes it right" harm any field in which they try to advise people. The mentality is "post hoc, ergo propter hoc".

    Only the best for you Mr. Elitist Audio Man

    the man is teaching you the difference. You need to have your pencil and note pad out. I also think you should show some respect. He hasn't posted any smart ass comments your direction.

    Not in exactly my direction no. More of a blanket statement involving everyone who runs CCA, uses the term "box rise," or uses a class D amp and calls it "better." Here is the thing, I am all for knowing the science and math, but I am also wise enough to know that in practice the gains or losses are minute.

    I hate to sit here and watch people hear everything said by him and take it as gospel.

    And don't get it wrong, I respect Tony, but I won't have people thinking that there is only one way to do something and that if they aren't doing it that way they are wrong.

    There's always more than one way to do something. Some better than others. Often with any product there are good better and best versions. The man is teaching the ideal way, or best way of doing things. His ways aren't the only way, but why would you show someone how to do something in an inferior way? I feel like I learn something every time I watch one of his videos.

    Thank you for bringing some logic.

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  17. Amp Test Tuesday - Pre-guesses (RESULTS PAGE 6) - 5 Winners!- Rockford Fosgate Prime 750.1

    in Amp Test Tuesday - Results from the SMD AD-1 Amp Dyno

    Posted

    Steve i just got to watch the video the total number is 5645 on the paper you wrote

    1 ohm

    758, 883, 997

    .8 ohm

    863,1002, 1142

    at the end of the video you put the uncertified clipping for the .8 at 1102 when you wrote 1002 on paper.

    so the actual total is 5645 not 5745. Anyways amazing little amp just noticed the typo

    damn, i guess you are right. Well i guess if someone wants to make a list of any changes that the 100 watt "typo" made as far as who the winner is, i would be happy to take care of a couple people if i got to. So who "won" and who should have "won"? Might be the same outcome but if anyone got left out, let me know i will handle it.

    i hate making mistakes...sucks not being perfect. damn! :D

    i think i left my document open at home with the 10 closest people. I will check in a few hours and update if there were any changes.

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