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gr8handogoatness

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  1. Well what deck do you have, maybe someone else has the same one and happens to know when it clips. I would always assume yours will clip just earlier since you don't know for sure. I've used a few kenwood decks and none of them have ever clipped, but I don't know model numbers so that isn't helpful. My o-scope shows what I consider clipping just barely before the clip indicator on my Arc Audio amp. But I would say if you find clipping then just back it off a bit, slightly more than a hair (you like the exactness there?). If you don't have a way to find clipping of the signal from your deck then you need to invest a little bit more and get a DD-1. They say you can use the 3/4 rule but depending on the deck (boss in particular is the one place I have seen it) it might clip prior to 3/4 volume. Everything is just better with a DD-1. I say DD-1 because it is cheaper than an oscilloscope and it comes with a CD that has the tracks you need to do all this. Its worth the investment if you are planning on doing much with systems, and if you have a sundown amp you obviously are looking for loud and great sound so it would benefit you for your next system as well. We all know you will upgrade or get a new ride and need another, whatever the case may be get the DD-1 and you will be good.

  2. Steve I'm just gonna throw this out there, you may already know, but tires with low air pressure do better in the sand. Obviously not helpful if you have no way to fill them back up so on your next truck install a couple little tanks and an air compressor. Comes in super handy. You can fill up your tires, rzr tires or a buddy's tires. They have smallish tanks that can be tucked out of the way. Just an idea. Like I said you may have already thought of it.

    Edit: I now see that I have obviously missed some pages, my bad. I guess I second what has been said.

  3. Well at 12v if you draw 60 amps that's like 720 watts. W=V×A. So it would only have to be like 69% efficient to put out 500 watts @12v and 4 ohms. (The 125.4). It all depends on efficiency of the components and the design. If is class A or B or AB or D or T, whatever. Also if there are any on board processors or protection circuits that take more current as well. It gets pretty complicated. Don't judge an amp by any one variable. Rating of fuses and efficiency can tell part of the story. But you just have to take their word for it. If it says sundown on it, no need to worry, you get what you pay for and then some. All the big daddy brands are the same. DC, DD... they don't mess around when it comes to trust. If they say it, that's because they will do it on their worst day.

  4. Pick one set of subs build a nice box for them and stick with just the one matching pair . Nothing good can come of a bunch of mismatched stuff thrown together like that. I'm not trying to insult you or what you have so please don't be offended. In the long run trust me you will be much happier if you just start over build a nice box for the sundowns and run them on the amp you have.

    Yep this is what I was going to say. Build a good ported box for two of them, probably the sundowns, and let it slam. It will be better.

    I have found that anytime I have been disappointed in equipment that most people recommend and use, it's because I screwed something up. So basically I'm saying you shouldn't be disappointed in those sundown subs on that alpine amp. So box is the issue here.

  5. The amp has a remote gain control including the gain control on the amp ? Another suggestion not sure if this is stupid but what if I ran the sub at 8 ohms ?

    Yeah that wasn't my question. So I'm gonna say its too much power. If you run the sub at 8 ohms that will definitely decrease the power going to the sub. It would work technically but not what I would. So here you go. Build your box to whatever it is that makes you happy. 3.5 cubes or less. The reason you don't want it any bigger is because you have too much power going to it and in a big box that thing will bottom out like theres no tomorrow. Bad news for the woofer. So build your box and then set your gain right. Here is how you do it:

    Get and o-scope or DD-1 and with the woofers unhooked turn up the gain until it clips. Look at the knob and see where it is pointing. Look at the distance in relation to 0. Turn it down about 1/4 or even 1/3 of the way towards 0. Now carefully pull the knob off or put tape over it and don't ever touch it again. Then go and plug in the remote gain and turn it all the way up and make sure there is not clipping. If it clips throw that POS away because you don't need it. If it doesn't clip then you're good and just refrain from turning the remote gain all the way up while playing.

  6. Well I have spent just under $4000 on Sundown products in the last couple of weeks does anybody have suggestions on my setup?

    First off post in the right section with your own thread and not on someone else thread. Then maybe you will get some answers. I know your first was to Jacob but that's still not what this thread is for so post up your own thread and see if you can get some answers.

    Secondly, and this is the more important one to me (also I'm not deliberately trying to be a dick) but who the hell spends $4000 dollars on stuff that they don't know what to do with or how to use it. I'm thinking maybe you should figure out if it will fit you application before you buy. I mean $4000 into it and you are just now asking what to do. If you wanted a wall you should have figured out what your electrical can handle, how much space you are dealing with, how much power and electrical upgrades you need and then start looking into subs. Anyway, make a thread and ask there, in the right section or nobody will answer anyway. Also Jacob is a busy man. He does his job well, but understand that replying to you on this thread is not his job. Your box isn't his problem, but he is awesome and he and his company have great customer service so he does reply when time permits just because that's what kind of dude he is. Does his job plus some.

    Now that I'm over that, I wish I knew more so I could help. When you make a new thread be sure to give all the info you have. What type of car and subs and amp... Measurements if you can get them. Tell us about the power you are running and the electrical you have. I am fairly certain that if you do make a thread with this info, someone will end up being very helpful. I'm just not that guy.

    First off other people can ask about specs for these subs on this thread but I can't. Who else would know what's best for these subs than the guy who built them that I purchased them from? And I do know what to do with them and it is all planned and electrical is done so if you didn't design and build my subs. BTW these are a brand new sub he has and I know basically what to run but I wanted his input. Thanks for the help though.
    I came off as a bit of an a-hole and I apologize.
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