Thx Frank,I lucked out,the funny thing about this auction was,I was just getting ready to just order an SA 12 D 2 from sundown ,but when i saw this ,and then saw that my seller lived in the same city as me I thought to myself,"I need to just get a hold of him now and pick this baby up right now!" so I tried leave him my email and phone number forgetting that E-bay doesn't allow That, Lol ,Anyways I did manage to find a way to give him my number through there messenger service , something I saw on craigslist that escorts do on there adds ,the good thing is I met a new Freind and got a cool sub out of this deal,who's also gonna get me the other 1 in a few weeks so i can have a matching pair, by luck his buddy bought 6 for his build,but only used 4,so these 2 are still new and not broken in.