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Just throwing this out there, I actually have the newer 9105D, clamped it w/ a calabrated Fluke 336. Anyhow, I clamped mine @ around 567-570...@ 3.7ohm after rise on a 50hrz 0db tone.(1 L5 wired@2ohm).
Edit: Dunno how clean it was, sounded fine though.
I had mine for 3 years (9104d) and it hit alright daily for 3 years and sounded good in the process. I knew it wasn't making 900, but damn, this BRZ puts out some real power. So much more bass, the lows are so much better, the bass is cleaner. My friends were blown away by the difference, its night and day. Get yourself a BRZ for a few hundred online, ditch that kenwood, do yourself that favor, I'm wishing i did it sooner....holy balls do i love this HiFonics amp...
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Well, i won't ever go back, but i went over for music recording/production. Im attending flashpoint academy in chicago, for recording arts, and they require you to go with a macbook pro to run Pro Tools 10 (which my mac does with ease, my HP would shit itself). Personally, ill never go back to PC. 5 months ago i said id never use a mac... Once you go mac, you don't go back...
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Well, pretty much lost all my music when i switched from PC to my Mac, had to reformat my external, and lost a LOT of my music. Now pretty much everything i have is dub step, house, trance, electro, rave music basically. I lost all my rap and chopped and screwed, Decaf's stuff was on a site that got shut down, so i can't find that anymore....Can anyone recommend some good bangers for me? Or spots to find some? I just got my new amp in after a month of NO bass at all (it was hell) and i just feel the need for some good C&S music...
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Installed my BRZ1700.1d yesterday when it arrived, put some sound deadener on my rear deck lid ( it rattled with the kenwood, i knew the new amp would be worse). Set my gains, swapped out the fuse in my dist. block (was fused for the kenwood) to a 150A fuse (goes batt. fuse holder, run of 1/0 to trunk, fused dist. block, amp, ground block in my car). Set my gains, and went and cruised to try it out.
SO MUCH BETTER than the POS kenwood i had. Headlights dim a lot now though, so i need to save up some money for some wire for the big 3 (I'm in school 40 hours a week, i don't get to work much, it took me a month to save up to replace my amp). Hoping the big 3 will be enough to get rid of the dim, i don't have the cash for an extra battery right now.
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i would go with a hifonics brutus, the BRZ1700 seems to suit your needs.. i had a kenwood 8104D for about a year in my car, i was happy with it for the price and after plenty of abuse it still works, it used to heat up and go into protect every once in a while but only after beating on it for a while with the gain prob up to much
I beat on mine at all times, till now, gotta baby it or it shuts down (the 9104D). I used to go to OK State, and drive from Stillwater, OK to St Charles, IL (10-13 hrs depending on traffic and speed) with the bitch full blast the whole time, i had my gains set REALLY low, my 9887 seems to put out decent signal to the amps, but it never went into protect from the time i installed it till last friday on my way home from work. I think this weekend ill take it out and take it apart and blow the dust out, since i still haven't bolted my back seat back in, i just placed it there so nobody gets the bright idea to bust my window (i take the train downtown for school everyday and my car sits in a garage from 630am to 3-4pm unattended, and don't trust the people at the disc golf courses).
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Ive been looking before the BRZ comments, and i think thats the way i may end up going, right price point, and I've heard a lot of good things about the brutus series.
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Actually had the same amp like 3 or 4 years ago. It always would hit alot quieter after heavy bass notes and then go back to playing normally. Apparently it's not all too uncommon.
I've had it installed for 3 years now, its just now starting to do this, used to take the abuse all day long. Im probably going with an AQ, which I've been wanting to do for a while, just need to save up some cash and keep the volume down for now while the shifty kenwood is on its last leg. I didn't expect it to last this long even.
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Look. If ur looking for a cheap, efficient amp that puts out a true 1200watts. Get this (200shipped!)
http://www.sonicelec...BRZ1200.1D.html
Or get the AQ for an xtra C-Note
yeah, need that at 2 ohms, not 1.
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Also, im hungover, and a bit of a prick when hungover, and extremely pissed off when shit breaks, since my TV just died a week ago and i had to replace that. So yeah, thats the reason I'm salty this afternoon.
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ah, i see its really a 2ohm amp they just put a 1ohm rating on there just because. so the part about doubling resistance is not valid here.
yeah, I've always ignored the 1ohm rating, its only stable down to 2 ohms. I've had it for a few years, i think i know the amp pretty well by now.
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im not talking shit about your amp and i understand people are sensitive when they hear their amp isnt doing what they think. im just telling you the truth and making sure you are set up for the extra power so you dont break something else. yes, im actually helping. now its not called "watts law" its ohm's law. resistance definitely plays a part and so does efficiency. something your math didnt account for.
14.4 x 60 = 864
864 x .75 (efficiency) = 648 (hey look at that, i was pretty darn close) [you said 300-400] so no, you weren't close at all.
then account for your voltage drop and im probably rite on the money.
lastly, doubling the resistance should cut the power in half. this does seem to varry based on the amp's design but lets say, best case,(and your amp wont be this good) it drops %30 leaving you with 453w at perfect voltage. then we factor in impedance rise and holy fuck lol. you dont even want to know what that brings you to.
now there is good news here. if you were happy with the output of this kenwood amp, you dont need to look for a 1000w replacement. just get an amp that truely puts out 500w at 2ohm and you will be set. that will really help you save money and get a better quality amp.
i know it isn't doing rated, but its right around 650, which is a bit under the 700 i said.
yes its watts law, not ohms law, different laws. and i wasn't happy with it when i switched from the RF to this thing, its way underpowered compared to what i want, but what i can afford and what id like are 2 different things. Im probably going to just baby this thing till it finally shits then buy the AQ1200, which i should have bought back when i was working, not in school...
Ohms law is voltage resistance current. (usually think of V=IR)
Watts law is power current voltage(resistance if you use a different formula). (usually think of P=VI)
You're not coming off in a very helpful way, its coming off as knock on kenwood, i said in the first post it doesn't do rated. I have my MECP basic. Ive worked for shops doing installs, I've done multiple installs. But that was all a while ago. I came on here looking for advice for a replacement. YOU HAVENT GIVEN ME ONE OPTION, so no, you are not helping. If you want to know about my electrical, FVCKING ASK. 1/0 Knukonceptz from front to back, and for the ground, stock alt, stock batt.
Now that I've officially came off as a prick today, would you like to help or not, if so, list some amps, if not, piss off.
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unless i came across the wrong amp, that kenwood has 60 amps of fusing. so thats about 600w, 2ohm puts you well under that since its a 1ohm amp.
so in reality, it cant physically do 700w at 2ohm or anywhere near that.
"As for actual performance, most customers and tests say the same thing, that for the price, this is a great Kenwood amp, like most are. The problem is, however, one customer was quoted as stating that the amp is priced in the same range of comparable amps in the 600-700 wrms range, and it is not a true 900 watt amp. He also said "This amp has been tested at 644wrms @ 14.4v into 2ohm" and "if you are looking for 600-700wrms, this will be fine. But only produces around 72% of rated power (900Watts), as per Car Audio Magazine test,"
http://voices.yahoo.com/the-perfect-kenwood-kac-9104d-not-so-5408199.html
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sounds like its protecting, then unprotecting, then protecting again
thats what i was thinking, its nice out, i may pull the back seat and check voltages and pull the fuses out of my amp and check them. But it sounds like its going into protect over and over again, which means its time to replace it.
While you are doing that: Check the impedance on the subs too. Make sure they read what they are supposed to and nothing is shorting out.
its such a nice day but I'm dead from partying last night, lol. That and i wanna go frisbee golfing.....ugh, guess its time to get moving
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unless i came across the wrong amp, that kenwood has 60 amps of fusing. so thats about 600w, 2ohm puts you well under that since its a 1ohm amp.
so in reality, it cant physically do 700w at 2ohm or anywhere near that.
Seeing as i know I'm not maintaining 14.4v with stock electrical, well assume 12v, 12v*60A=720watts....thats watts law for you. IIRC, impedance has nothing to do with this side of watts law. But, now, this is all going off shit i haven't looked up in years...amps are more efficient at higher loads (draw less power that they convert into heat rather than output voltage). Even though we know its not 100% efficient, and i know I'm not dropping all the way down to 12v, i think its safe to say yes, it makes the 700 i said. P=V*I and 720=12*60. Resistance doesn't come into play in watts law. Some amps can make the same output at different resistances, depends on the amp design, i know mine isn't that fancy, its a POS, it was cheap, so i grabbed it. But i can say this, i know what its putting out, set the gains using P=V^2/R, and didn't allow for clipping. I know it isn't making rated power, but you're really underestimating my amp. Now can we get off the trash my shitty kenwood game and get on topic??
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best i can tell, that amp could only do 300-400w at 2ohm, at best. so if you really want to get 1000w you are more than tripling your power. can the subs handle that? can you electrical?
it puts out about 700 at 2 ohms in reality. And yes, the subs can handle the power, I'm under powering them currently. Used to have a real old RF T1000 on the pair when they were in my blazer.
sounds like its protecting, then unprotecting, then protecting again
thats what i was thinking, its nice out, i may pull the back seat and check voltages and pull the fuses out of my amp and check them. But it sounds like its going into protect over and over again, which means its time to replace it.
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Ive had a Kenwood 9104D since early 2009 in my daily driver seeing a 2 ohm load. Yesterday morning on the drive to work, it worked just fine. On my way home, it quit, kind of. It works as long as i don't push it at all. I have a CDA-9887 and if i go past 20 ill get 1 good solid hit then it cuts out for a few seconds then comes back for another good hit and keeps doing this. I can only assume that means my amp is toast yes?
Anyone got any good cheap replacement recommendations, looking for 800-1200w RMS at 2 ohms. Currently in school about 40hrs a week, so i only get to work 4-8 hrs a week, so money is really tight. Was hoping to save this money and put it towards some studio monitors, but i can't stand not having subs. And monitors and acoustic treatment for a room costs more than an amp anyway, lol. If i can save up I'm thinking of just getting the AQ1200, but id have to change a lot of my lifestyle to save the money up (i know its not much, but when you are at school down town chicago and commute every day, can't bring a lunch cuz theres no fridge, cost of living aint cheap when you can't work). Not opposed to used amps off this board, but would like to go new.
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Those look pretty nice, but you know, $400 plus shipping for those monsters, plus an amp
If you're going for quality, it might be a good idea to buy some speakers and build your own enclosures. Plus it would be a fun learning experience.
trust me, thats what id like to do best, but i live in an apt, am in college, almost 800mi from home, so....building is just not an option right now unfortunately...trust me, if i lived at home, i wouldnt be on here, id be doing this all my own, and coming for advice on which drivers people who have experience with them prefer, lol. this is far from my first rodeo.
As far as an amp, my dad may send me this old amp from the basement that doesnt get used, its either a 4 or 5 ch, decent amount of power per ch IIRC, its his from back in college also, lol, kinda funny cuz now im in college (he was always like me, would rather spend money on something good than just buy budget and skimp and replace it in a year. Amp still works fine too! He offered to send it, so once i have specs i just gotta see what i can do with THAT amp and match it to some speakers...either a pair of bi-amped towers, or 2 towers and a pair of speakers to form a center ch. with the towers going nice and low....
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=303-422
and
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=303-420
look like some nice towers to me in my budget range, and would probably suit my needs pretty well...
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sorry to tripple bump, just got off the phone with my dad, theres a stereo in the basement that NEVER gets used, so hes gunna shoot me the model number and all next time hes down there, give me something to research till class starts...I got NO problems ghetto rigging shit till i can afford good stuff.
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In that case, I would say the one skullz linked looks pretty nice. If you're looking for "bigger" speakers, that are more geared towards home theater, you could try something like this:
I actually own that subwoofer, and It's not great for music, but it does add some bass, and sounds nice for movies, and presumably games.
this isnt a bad idea, problem is, im going from a 500 watt system...i play games, listen to music, watch movies, fuck my neighbors, ive already approached them and said if its ever too loud just come say so, no need to call the cops.
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i base this on u haveing to move back n forth so it wont be a stay at one place for a long time thing so, why not try pawn shops? u could find something that fits ur needs and budget i guess
my logitech 580 i think has 5 speakers but wired in stereo as i have no 3.1-5.1 sound card, its like a good 3.1 and carrys each range pritty good, for around $80 its worth it
i think more of this is what kinda budget u want, do u want crazy loud or just clean sound with good bass, or something of that sort, theres so much different stuff that will fill the blanks its wierd
like my buddy has 2 peavy b&w 18'' 3ways ran off of a old realistic amp and its amazing, but ied rather listen to my "upgraded" bookshelf system
if ur budget is somewhat reasonable i would suggest getting a good 2ch home recever, some good bookshelf speakers, and a powered sub
if u look at the right places u could get said stuff for around $100-$200, but that can drasticly go to $500-$800+ depending on needs, thats why i said check local pawn shops, i found some good deals, i got alot of klh speakers from pawn shop, they have pritty good sound with or without a sub
but lets find out what kinda budget ur working with and we can go from there, do u want studio quality sound or something that sounds good and portable?
right now its more about quality over quantity, without giving up too much quantity, lol. The shit i listed is just dream purchases, no way in hell can i afford those while im in college without selling my car or taking out extra on my student loans, and if i were going that far, id buy a pair of CDJs and a nice pioneer mixer too....
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In that case, I would say the one skullz linked looks pretty nice. If you're looking for "bigger" speakers, that are more geared towards home theater, you could try something like this:
I actually own that subwoofer, and It's not great for music, but it does add some bass, and sounds nice for movies, and presumably games.
ill look at those, currently (if i could afford it) id have a pair of these
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/jbl-lsr-2328p-8-bi-amplified-powered-studio-monitor
paired with one of these
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/jbl-lsr4312sp-12-linear-spatial-reference-powered-subwoofer
but thats alot of money i dont have as a college student. Im looking or something with decent power, (my hearing is shit as im sure everyone else on here's is) and i would like to have the dynamic headroom if im messing with reason/ableton)
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Also, i fool around a bit with some music production on my laptop, so yeah, 20-20k is kinda a must here, i realize im probably gunna spend a pretty penny, but its worth it to me. I may buy studio monitors and an external sub to handle the lows (most studio monitors in my price range go down to 60Hz....)
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I'm not sure exactly what you're asking for, but here are some 2.1 systems.
Also, what is this going to be used for? Music/movies/games? My knowledge doesn't really exceed more than searching for speakers on newegg, but maybe someone else can help you, especially if you want to build your own (would be a cool project.)
tv/games/movies/music (mostly) Its a all in one system. I currently have a 5.1 set up as a 3.1
What are you studying
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Went to SIUC for Mechanical Engineering for a bit, then OK State for Construction management. But now I've found my passion. I go to Flashpoint in Chicago for Studio Recording. First time in my life i actually want to get up and go to school, or actually do my HW, and the first time my GPA has been in the high 3's in years.