oh yeah, 5 years was a great run, they still sound new too, even though i put a hole through one of the surrounds, which i siliconed over in and outside to fix, that was 3 years ago. These were the best budget buy ever, my first subs, they went from a sealed box, to a ported box to a final ported box, from doing a 135.x to a 141.x @37Hz in my blazer (different boxes). This is going to be in a trunk car, but Ive wanted to do 8s for years now, and I'm really excited to try them out. I just need to scrounge the money together, being in class/commuting to/from school over 40 hours a week, plus hw when i get home, doesn't leave much time for work to buy new stuff. If i can find someone to buy my subs (they are 150 each on ebay, i figure i can get 150 for the pair, 225 if i build a box for the customer buying the subs locally. Which is really close to the cost of the 8s.