people can talk as much crap as they want....point being i have 40 feet of 0G ready to instal when i get my larger amp and i pick up a deka intimidator tommorow for underhood use...its a work in progress....i dont have much space to work with...i mean damn the spare time has to stay and the seats have to stay up at all times....completely boxed up in the back would only get me 11.5 cube of space.....