aight, so i looked those up and found this, http://cgi.ebay.com/2-KICKER-10CVX12-2-12-SUBWOOFERS-DUAL-VENTED-SUB-BOX-/390299516662?pt=Car_Subwoofers_Enclosures&hash=item5adfa9fef6#ht_5688wt_1139, it seems like a pretty good deal. im assuming that the box isnt the greatest but i wouldnt mind dealing with it for a while until i worked up the nerve to build a better box. do you think this is a better buy than the mtx's? my amp wouldnt be able to power these to their full potential but i think that it wouldnt kill the amp because its supposed to be pretty good.